Confederate Ave. residents meet to discuss street name change (Atlanta: family friendly, racism)

[bu2]

Well back to the topic, Confederate Avenue's name should be up to the residents. There is no Confederate Veterans Home there anymore and hasn't been for probably close to a century. Sounds like it was simply used as a descriptor for the street. The residents are the ones who will have to bear the cost of changing their addresses and stationary. The cost will be biggest to anyone with a business.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by JPD

No.

Well the zip codes it is in were 56% and 63% Black in the 2010 census. Whatever the population on the specific street, it is almost certainly pretty mixed and not some lily white enclave as implied in the post I was questioning.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by bu2

Well the zip codes it is in were 56% and 63% Black in the 2010 census. Whatever the population on the specific street, it is almost certainly pretty mixed and not some lily white enclave as implied in the post I was questioning.

There is an apartment complex that is mostly black. The rest of the street is single family homes occupied almost entirely by white people.

This is about as lily white as you can possibly get. On Confederate: larkandsparrownails

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by arjay57

The motives behind these monuments were mixed. Obviously many of them were intended to honor and glorify the Confederacy and it's heroes. The "Lost Cause" hagiography had become very popular in the south and,to some extent, even in the north.

But it's equally obvious that the predominant cause of the Civil War was the preservation of slavery. In the late 1800s and early 1900s Jim Crow and white supremacy were resurgent and it's impossible to disassociate these monuments from that. And during the Civil Rights era they clearly became symbols of the opposition.

I don't like the idea of sterilizing history but I have no problem with putting these statues in a museum instead of displaying them in the public square.

After the civil war half the CSA were nearly half black, they put them up in the first place against wishes of the black population in which they didn't care about and had poltical goal and discriminating against the black population.

In 1870 the black made this percentage of following states.

AL 47%
GA 46%
MS 53%
LA 50%
SC 58%

these monuments where put up against the wishes on the black population as they ignore they black population and disfranchised them, with Jim Crow laws which cause the great migration.

After the civil rather then take on idea that South was wrong... they continue the notion the South was right.

Their nothing noble either they are one of the bluntly racist leaders or they follow the racist leaders and committed treason fought and killed there follow Americans for terrible cause.

And let's not kid ourselves they were not put up in shame to "learn a lesson " they was put up for the opposite to paint them as heroes. In there racist world they couldn't imagine people not being racist, now modernity it's out of place since America doesn't have those racist values to why they were put up.

[chiatldal]

Agree it should be up to the residents.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

After the civil war half the CSA were nearly half black, they put them up in the first place against wishes of the black population in which they didn't care about and had poltical goal and discriminating against the black population.

In 1870 the black made this percentage of following states.

AL 47%
GA 46%
MS 53%
LA 50%
SC 58%

these monuments where put up against the wishes on the black population as they ignore they black population and disfranchised them, with Jim Crow laws which cause the great migration.

After the civil rather then take on idea that South was wrong... they continue the notion the South was right.

Their nothing noble either they are one of the bluntly racist leaders or they follow the racist leaders and committed treason fought and killed there follow Americans for terrible cause.

And let's not kid ourselves they were not put up in shame to "learn a lesson " they was put up for the opposite to paint them as heroes. In there racist world they couldn't imagine people not being racist, now modernity it's out of place since America doesn't have those racist values to why they were put up.

I don't remember in school learning what a high % of the population was slave in certain states. It was lower in the upper south. It certainly demonstrates how large the great migration was. The % of slaves in the 1860 census was a little lower (but in the same ballpark) but that did not include free blacks.

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

I guess we need to start brainstorming new names for the nation's capital, the Evergreen State and the Mississippi, Texas and Missouri state capitals while we're at it.

Isnt it just getting juicy LD? Isnt it just a FUN FUN time?

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

And Memorial Drive. And Gwinnett County. And Henry County. And Covington. And Spalding Drive. And Roswell. And Roswell Road(both of them!). And any street with 'Pace' in it. And Clayton County. And Grant Park.
I'm exhausted.

Very interesting. Doing my GOOGLES.

[0nyxStation]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

I love that the old main route (US 1) through all of SE Florida from Palm Beach to Homestead is called DIXIE HIGHWAY. It's like a spike through the hearts of all those obnoxious South Floridians who insist that Florida is NOT southern in any way, shape or form. FYI this is NOT an endorsement of the confederate South or the concept of DIXIE. It's just an amusing observation that Florida, despite arguments to the contrary, is still a Southern State.

Floridians never calls US 1 Dixie Highway. NEVER

[oobanks]

What affect will the this have on my all time Favorite Kids TV show of all Time, " The Dukes of Hazzard" Based and filmed right here in the Atlanta Metro. Me even being a black Male is Highly sadden by this. I in no way ever felt as though the Show was racist but reminded me more of the good times and my Child hood here in Georgia and the good ol days!! The dukes, heading into Atlanta from Hazzard County off to catch boss hogg In his tricks and end up having to save him.. Always family friendly but never have I picked up on any racism!!


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/362181...anned-history/