06-12-2010, 11:56 AM
Location: Atlanta
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So how is it possible to have suburbs with an urban center to sustain it? That in itself makes no sense.
What city center are you referring to? I already did a poll on here and from common 8th grade level common sense, most people in the suburbs don't go into downtown for anything but for the occasional "cultural" thingy. Downtown doesn't sustain crap.
06-12-2010, 12:03 PM
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My point was quite simple: Those who claim that Atlanta is more cosmopolitan than Charlotte are delusional. Both cities are huge suburbs. Neither is cosmopolitan.
Dude do you realize Atlanta is over 3x Charlotte in population,
ATL core 5 counties alone is 2x as populate than Charlotte whole metro in half the area .. Atlanta has 5 CBD to Charlotte one. I not dissing Charlotte but they're not in the same tier to claim that Atlanta isn’t more cosmopolitan. It’s like saying Houston isn't any more cosmopolitan than Austin.
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A large population hardly makes a place cosmopolitan, especially when the vast majority of the population lives in suburbs.
1. Let me point the vast majority of every metro stay in the suburbs. 2. Atlanta has a small city limit area for a sunbelt city with it metro size. 3. If Atlanta had city limit area of LA, SD, Hou, Dal, Denver, Nashville, Phoenix, Memphis, it would have a city to suburb ratio like them.
By the way all these researches most be delusional too.
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41Latitude - The Most Important Cities in the United States (http://www.41latitude.com/post/400972984/most-important-cities-united-states - broken link)
My thoughts on Charlotte is it's a fast raising city, I just realize you diss Charlotte by calling it a large suburb, than diss Atlanta by saying it's not more cosmopolitan than Charlotte, than say Atlanta is a huge suburb as well. All in that one post not in the same order.
06-12-2010, 12:51 PM
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With respect to population, Atlanta's metro is about the same as DC and bigger than SF and Boston. Yet, if anyone thinks that Atlanta is culturally on par with those cities, I recommend that he or she seek psychiatric treatment regarding a severe disconnect with reality,
06-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Location: Triangle, North Carolina
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With respect to population, Atlanta's metro is about the same as DC and bigger than SF and Boston. Yet, if anyone thinks that Atlanta is culturally on par with those cities, I recommend that he or she seek psychiatric treatment regarding a severe disconnect with reality,
Please define?
DC is the nations capitol, so granted in regard to museum's etc., there will be no comparison to nowhere in America.
Boston, considering the age difference of the towns another non comparison in America
San Francisco? With this one same thing on a different venue. San Fran's "Counter-Culture" will not allow no other comparison either
06-12-2010, 01:11 PM
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With respect to population, Atlanta's metro is about the same as DC and bigger than SF and Boston. Yet, if anyone thinks that Atlanta is culturally on par with those cities, I recommend that he or she seek psychiatric treatment regarding a severe disconnect with reality ,
You continue to imply that people on here are making such an assertion, and yet I've seen no evidence of it. And what is this obsession with mental illness?
06-12-2010, 01:19 PM
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Please define?
New York, the country's financial and cultural capital, actually has the best museums.
06-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Location: Triangle, North Carolina
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We can enjoy debate on the thread providing personal opinion on cities. No need to begin with insults, etc., Let's keep it friendly.
06-12-2010, 03:32 PM
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With respect to population, Atlanta's metro is about the same as DC and bigger than SF and Boston. Yet, if anyone thinks that Atlanta is culturally on par with those cities, I recommend that he or she seek psychiatric treatment regarding a severe disconnect with reality,
Wow you were the one that said Atlanta is not anymore cosmopolitan than charlotte. Now you want to switch up cities.
Culturally? Culture is subjective your not going to find much southern culture in DC, SF, and Boston. No to mention with the exception of DC theirs not much African American culture in SF and Boston. It deepens on what someone is looking for.
Umm I posted a link of numerous research studies… reality is? LOL. You disagree and feel they need psychiatric treatment you should contact these universities and organization.
06-13-2010, 02:55 AM
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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They're both massive suburbs. Anyone who thinks that Atl or Clt has a vibrant downtown like NY, Boston or SF is delusional. Also, unlike NY, Atl and Clt have no serious museums. In fact, they don't even have shopping streets. Like the suburbs that they are, both cities' shopping is concentrated in malls that one drives to.
1)Downtown proper has parts that are very vibrant and other parts that need work,but by far not dead.5 points is usually a bustling area at any-time mostly due to MARTA.(at least during those times its open).The vibrant areas are from Centennial Park,Allen Plaza,Georgia Aquarium and to Castleberry Hill.So no its not as vibrant as those cities but comparing it to Charlotte is not accurate at all either.
2)Shopping streets?Weak argument but ok.Atlanta does have shopping districts.Like Atlantic Station.Little 5 Points,Virginia Highlands,and Buckhead.Not to mention once construction is completed on the "Streets of Buckhead",the status will be further cemented.
Totally false about having to drive to these malls.You do not have to drive to any of the 3 major up scale malls in Atlanta.(Lenox,Phipps,and Perimeter).All are served by MARTA subway stations.@ alone are within a short walk of Lenox and Phipps.
3)While its true that Atlanta museums cannot compete with those in NYC,Boston or D.C.,its museums are noteworthy and garner very many accolades.Especially after the partnership with the Louvre began over 5 years ago.Many of these exhibits were coups for Atlanta.
06-13-2010, 03:08 AM
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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With respect to population, Atlanta's metro is about the same as DC and bigger than SF and Boston. Yet, if anyone thinks that Atlanta is culturally on par with those cities, I recommend that he or she seek psychiatric treatment regarding a severe disconnect with reality,
Atlanta may not be better but to say its no where on par is not accurate either.Woodruff Arts Center after all is the fourth largest in the .U.S.The ASO is a Grammy award winning orchestra.
Many of Atlanta restaurants are rated 4 and 5 stars.Usually Atlanta has been known to have some of the best eating options in the U.S.Shopping(while no "street".Atlanta has some very exclusive stores that many cities even bigger do not have
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Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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