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Old 08-31-2011, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Your Right to Know Sold Prices
Again, you're desire or "want" to know something about two other people's private business transaction doesn't create a "right". It scares me that there are people who actually think it does. It's none of your business. If you think your property appraised value is too high, you can protest it and get it lowered. I don't know a Realtor not willing to do a Free CMA for any home owner who asks. We do 100s of them every year. The specific data, relative to your specific home is easy to obtain from a Realtor.

Steve
It scares me, too, Steve, and for reasons that have very little to do with real estate.

It's all part of the pernicious virus of a sense of entitlement, people who think that just because they would like to have something or "want" it or it would be convenient for them to have it (including other people's private information), that that means it's their RIGHT to have it, they're ENTITLED to have it. Well, sorry, kiddos, YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO ANYONE ELSE'S PRIVATE INFORMATION without their consent, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. Is that clear enough?


And, yes, gpurcell, I am comparing the "right" to someone else's medical information to the "right" to any of their other private information, because the attitude of it being your "right" to have any of their private information without their consent is the same.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Your arguments are only convincing to other real estate agents, Steve.
That's not true.

If you want to, you are perfectly free to start your own organization or association which requests sales prices from homeowners. You can even make it a requirement that any homeowner wishing to use your association's services must first disclose their home's selling price.

And once you have that information, you could keep it all to yourself.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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It scares me, too, Steve, and for reasons that have very little to do with real estate.

It's all part of the pernicious virus of a sense of entitlement, people who think that just because they would like to have something or "want" it or it would be convenient for them to have it (including other people's private information), that that means it's their RIGHT to have it, they're ENTITLED to have it. Well, sorry, kiddos, YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO ANYONE ELSE'S PRIVATE INFORMATION without their consent, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. Is that clear enough?


And, yes, gpurcell, I am comparing the "right" to someone else's medical information to the "right" to any of their other private information, because the attitude of it being your "right" to have any of their private information without their consent is the same.
Entitlement???

I'll tell you what entitlement is--it is a private industry group demanding that all of society bend to their perverse little schemes and obscure practices. THAT'S entitlement.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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No, gpurcell, that's your interpretation because businesses that produce and gather information for the benefit of their paying members won't give you that information that you feel that you are entitled to have. That's what a sense of entitlement is.

It's a sickness in our society, is what it is. We should have fundraisers for research to find a cure for an overweening sense of entitlement on the part of individuals who were never taught that what belongs to others shouldn't be handed over to them because they want it.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Austin, TX
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What about redfin? Don't they have sales data on Austin home sales (at least for the last 3 years)?
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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As brokers and members of the MLS, they likely have it. However, if they publish it or provide it to anyone who is not a buyer or seller they are working with, they're in violation.
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Old 09-02-2011, 09:24 AM
 
Location: SW Austin & Wimberley
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As brokers and members of the MLS, they likely have it. However, if they publish it or provide it to anyone who is not a buyer or seller they are working with, they're in violation.
They really skirt the law a bit on this. While you (as a data surfer) are considered a "client" as defined by Texas, you are not actually locked into a Buyer Rep agreement with Redfin, so, in a way, it is a sort of public portal where people can go snoop.

That said, I did just try to see the sold data on an specific austin home and it said it was disallowed by MLS rules, but they do have a lot of aggregate data and mapped sales.

None of this substitutes for a proper CMA though.

Steve
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