Shuttered businesses along 183 (Austin, Anderson Mill, Anderson: landlords, shop, area)

[10scoachrick]

Originally Posted by cBach

Wow, AR a bit off topic from 183 businesses, let's stay on topic.

You have a point; but the growth of businesses OFF of 183 and into surrounding neighborhoods directly affects the draw(or lack thereof) BACK to 183...thus contributing to the shuttering or moving of those former 183 locations. As areas like AR Blvd/Parmer, for example, add restaurants and other businesses, it's less enticing to drive along 183 to find food, services, etc.

[cBach]

Originally Posted by 10scoachrick

You have a point; but the growth of businesses OFF of 183 and into surrounding neighborhoods directly affects the draw(or lack thereof) BACK to 183...thus contributing to the shuttering or moving of those former 183 locations. As areas like AR Blvd/Parmer, for example, add restaurants and other businesses, it's less enticing to drive along 183 to find food, services, etc.

Point taken.

[cBach]

Oh, forgot about the Starbucks @Lake Creek Pkwy and 183 closing as well.

Why can't a Starbucks survive along the 183 corridor?

[registered user]

Originally Posted by cBach

Oh, forgot about the Starbucks @Lake Creek Pkwy and 183 closing as well.

Why can't a Starbucks survive along the 183 corridor?

That Starbucks was surviving just well, every time I drove by it or went to the kolache joint next door it was busy. I bet the property owners wanted a lot more money to renew the lease. I know that was the case with the pawn shop just south of them.

[Moonlady]

Originally Posted by cBach

Oh, forgot about the Starbucks @Lake Creek Pkwy and 183 closing as well.

Why can't a Starbucks survive along the 183 corridor?

But there is one at the next intersection - Anderson Mill and 183. It seemed redundant to me to have two so close by. That one is always crowded, so I don't think being "along 183" specifically was the issue.

[sloppymeg]

Originally Posted by Moonlady

But there is one at the next intersection - Anderson Mill and 183. It seemed redundant to me to have two so close by. That one is always crowded, so I don't think being "along 183" specifically was the issue.

AND they opened a new one at Lakeline and 183 in the new HEB/Alamo Drafthouse development.

The one at Lake Creek and 183 had THE most terrible parking lot I have ever seen for a Starbucks.

[calel]

It also made for a dangerous intersection because people would dart across 3 lanes of traffic and slam on their brakes from the feeder U-Turn to get at that Starbucks.

[10scoachrick]

Originally Posted by sloppymeg

The one at Lake Creek and 183 had THE most terrible parking lot I have ever seen for a Starbucks.

Did you never visit the Sandy Springs 'bucks? THAT was sad!!!(Next to Rumi's Kitchen)

[atxcio]

I think the shuttered business effect is just the normal strip-mall transitioning, and there is a lot of that on 183 -- but in other areas, too. The big chains which don't build their own buildings (big retailers, places like Starbucks, etc) always want to have the spot in the premier shopping center. Perhaps to stake it out so the competition doesn't get it. Or perhaps they get a great deal when the new developers are trying to get tenants to secure funding. So, they sign a lease for a few years when a shopping center is new... but when a new one gets built (or one is completely remodeled), they will move there. Even if it is just across the street. I've seen it happen so many times around the 183, Mopac, and 360 area. Circuit city (when it was around), Best Buy, Home Depot, etc -- they jumped around to the newest, most "premier" shopping center in the immediate area. That was the plan with Whole Foods, too ... but they decided to keep the old location open.

[cBach]

Originally Posted by atxcio

I think the shuttered business effect is just the normal strip-mall transitioning, and there is a lot of that on 183 -- but in other areas, too. The big chains which don't build their own buildings (big retailers, places like Starbucks, etc) always want to have the spot in the premier shopping center. Perhaps to stake it out so the competition doesn't get it. Or perhaps they get a great deal when the new developers are trying to get tenants to secure funding. So, they sign a lease for a few years when a shopping center is new... but when a new one gets built (or one is completely remodeled), they will move there. Even if it is just across the street. I've seen it happen so many times around the 183, Mopac, and 360 area. Circuit city (when it was around), Best Buy, Home Depot, etc -- they jumped around to the newest, most "premier" shopping center in the immediate area. That was the plan with Whole Foods, too ... but they decided to keep the old location open.

So is this just a case of those old strip centers needing a good ole fashioned remodeling? (a little lipstick on the pig so to speak?)