11-10-2007, 10:07 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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Bet that will get a lot of people's attention...
11-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Location: Great State of Texas
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There's always someone who thinks their job in life is upholding the HOA laws.
Don't assume folks will dismiss it.
Think of what you would do if you got turned in ?? move or get rid of several of your pets ??
IMO I think you should just find a place with no HOA or HOA rules that don't limit the number of cats. Then you don't have to live in fear of the commando's
11-11-2007, 09:32 AM
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Megan1967
Bet that will get a lot of people's attention...
I don't think it would bother me if you lived in my area, I just couldn't come over because I'm allergic to cats. Ha! I think if they were loose in the neighborhood you would probably get complaints but if they are locked up tight who would know?
11-11-2007, 09:35 AM
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"crazy cat lady" LOL....
11-11-2007, 09:47 AM
Location: SW Austin & Wimberley
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Madison, WI doesn't have a pet limit so I've been fine here.
Most HOA associations have a 4 pet limit, with the stipulation there there may be no more than 3 dogs or 3 cats. (so you can't have 4 dogs, but you can have 3 dogs and 1 cat, etc.) Every time I sell a house in a new neighborhood, I make sure to check on that. Some have weight limits and breed restrictions as well, though that's more common in condo or townhome settings.
Older neighborhoods don't have HOAs, but I'm not sure whether or not any city ordinances exist regarding limits on the number of pets. There are rules on how you maintain and keep your pets though. (no dogs tied to chains anymore - must be a fenced area or pen) Also, in more rural suburbs, small pets are often the target of wild prey such as coyotes and foxes.
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I've always assumed that no one would care if it didn't impact them, but I don't want to take a chance when it comes to something as big as buying a house.
If they are indoor cats, it probably would not be noticed by your neighbors. If you decide to rent instead of buy, you won't find any professional property managers or apartment complexes willing to accept 8 pets. You might find a private owner willing to do it though.
Steve
11-11-2007, 10:46 AM
Location: Madison, WI
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Thanks to everyone for the feed back so far. Actually one more point in favor of Austin for me is that it seems to have a fairly active animal welfare community.
Sometimes HOA's grant exceptions, don't they? I wonder if I could get a humane officer from the local HS to come out and write a report would help. I was able to put in a little fenced area in my back yard for Monty (my dog) by asking the HOA where I currently live. You know, it's funny, I built my house and so I'm one of the original residents and I don't even know of the HOA rules have a pet limit here.
People in Madison are pretty laid back about things like that as long as it doesn't impact them which is what I was hoping for in Austin. I suppose it doesn't hurt that I'm not really all that chummy with the neighbors so very few have made it into my house. They have commented, however, on the number of cats sitting in the windows so I couldn't really hide it and if someone wanted to be a stinker I'd be sunk.
I wonder if perhaps they'd grant me an exception once I was there and people saw that my house is not one that would conjure images of SPCA storm troopers swarming the neighborhood clad in gas masks and toting those poles they use to lasso feral cats and dogs. It would probably be more likely once I was settled in, but then again, once I was settled in I'd rather not have to move. Giving up the cats is not an option.
Four is a pretty liberal number to allow. Honestly I don't think anyone really should have more than 4 cats and definitely not more than 4 dogs unless they have acreage. I'm going to let attrition get me down to that point, but my oldest two are only 10 so it is going to be several years down the line.
11-11-2007, 06:45 PM
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There are lots of great areas -- really great areas -- in Austin with no HOA. Nothing to do with pets necessarily, but just lots of people living off the beaten path just a little bit. People who want to paint their house purple, maybe landscape their yard a little creatively, etc. Places that are safe and family friendly, but not your 100%-young-families-with-2.5-kids new gated communities.
11-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Location: Madison, WI
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I'm not looking anywhere in particular. I'd rather live in a neighborhood where there are no restrictions as it seems kind of odd. There wasn't one in the neighborhood I grew up in and the neighborhood I live in now doesn't really enforce any of the "rules" which is just fine with me. No one does anything too crazy.
And, no, as a 40 year old single woman with no children, living in suburbia is not my big goal in life. Housing appears to be more affordable there however...
I'm looking a 200,000 max. Looking through austinhomesearch.com it appeared at first that there were tons of nice homes in my price range. Not the 1950's house with arched doorways and nice woodwork I'd like perhaps, but nice homes all the same. Since then I've read things here that make it sound as if the housing market is very similar to where I am now.
I'd rather not get too far out of Austin as Austin is the reason I'd be moving down there. Where I live now would be perfect if it weren't for the weather. I guess I'm looking for a change in scenery, but not the flavor of where I live.
11-12-2007, 05:13 AM
Location: SW Austin & Wimberley
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I'm looking a 200,000 max. Looking through austinhomesearch.com it appeared at first that there were tons of nice homes in my price range.
Your price range would put you in a decent 1970s/1980s home in South Austin for $100 to $120 per sqft. The Cherry Creek areas off Westgate would be a good place to start. No HOAs, mostly laid back people.
Steve
11-12-2007, 09:56 AM
Location: Austin, TX
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You are, according to my casual interpretation of the press, looking in a good price range. The sub 200k is supposedly hurting, so I am assuming you can get a better deal. A friend just sold his house off of Brodie and Wm Cannon area for $169k. It is 1564 ft2 and the 'market appraised value' use by the city was $140k. The selling price was $108/ft and ~20% above what the city was taxing it at. It is a late 70s house and there are no HOAs in the area that I know of (not active, anyway). Its main drawback was that its back fence was facing Brodie Ln and the high percent of renters in the neighborhood. Surprisingly, there was not much noise, but, of course, buyers aren't going to believe that
. On the other hand, it was in a culdesac and had a huge backyard.
In N. Austin, I think there are some similar sized houses off of Duval, also 70s era. If you do not mind backing up to the MoPac, you can get some good deals for being in pretty close (Duval/183 area). I lived there for years, and my cat did not care at all about the trains (nor did I). Some people would be bothered, so it all depends on what would bother you. Again, you end up with a larger than average backyard due to backing up to the RR. Definitely, no intrusive HOA rules there....a couple of horses in the neighborhood and my cat visited all the retirees during the day, then came home at night for food and shelter
. Someone did have a pot belly pig, too. Most of the neighborhood is 'curbless', and the big lots with the horses are not going to be the ones for <200k
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People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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People in Madison are pretty laid back about things like that as long as it doesn't impact them which is what I was hoping for in Austin. I suppose it doesn't hurt that I'm not really all that chummy with the neighbors so very few have made it into my house. They have commented, however, on the number of cats sitting in the windows so I couldn't really hide it and if someone wanted to be a stinker I'd be sunk.
