Zoning's role in Austin's unaffordability (Howe: renter, lawyers, home)

[TexasHorseLady]

Originally Posted by gpurcell

Ahistorical nonsense. Hyde Park has always had a far different mix of lot sizes, real duplexes, garage apartments, etc. Now, some of those apartment buildings were built on raw land (Hyde Park was never built out fully and many folks had two lots and one house) but many others scraped irreplaceable historic buildings in favor of shoddy construction and 100 percent impermeable cover. To say nothing, of course, of the horror of Hyde Park Baptist Church. THAT old system was real diversity.

The "diversity" you are arguing for will turn out exactly like the "diversity" of West Campus--because homeowners, particularly those with kids, won't stay in a situation where the neighborhood becomes dominated by transient students.

This right here. Hyde Park HAD diversity, and it's being destroyed.

[A-Tex]

Originally Posted by brattpowered

Economic and socioeconomic diversity really are things.

Two separate and distinct income classes do not diversity make.

[brattpowered]

Originally Posted by A-Tex

Two separate and distinct income classes do not diversity make.

How many then? 3? 4?

[brattpowered]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

This right here. Hyde Park HAD diversity, and it's being destroyed.

What would be your plan for restoring it?

[gpurcell]

You don't get it--that diversity is in the process of being destroyed by the slow takeover of the area by college students.

[Komeht]

Originally Posted by gpurcell

You don't get it--that diversity is in the process of being destroyed by the slow takeover of the area by college students.

College students taking over 400K fixer upper 2 bd bungalows....lolololololololololololololololololol

[gpurcell]

Did you bother to look at the age distribution by zip code charts?

//www.city-data.com/zips/78751.html

[Komeht]

Originally Posted by gpurcell

Did you bother to look at the age distribution by zip code charts?

//www.city-data.com/zips/78751.html

oh wait - you're telling me that a neighborhood that is directly north of one of the largest universities in the world has a high student population?

This is a problem because. . .?

[gpurcell]

The issue is that the neighborhood is very close--if it hasn't already passed--a tipping point where families with kids are being completely driven out by investors buying bungalows and either turning them into student flophouses or scraping them and building super duplexes.

Edit: And the other point is that a student monoculture is the opposite of "diversity".

[Komeht]

Originally Posted by gpurcell

The issue is that the neighborhood is very close--if it hasn't already passed--a tipping point where families with kids are being completely driven out by investors buying bungalows and either turning them into student flophouses or scraping them and building super duplexes.

Edit: And the other point is that a student monoculture is the opposite of "diversity".

Fantasy land. . .Hyde Park is and will remain one of the most desirable neighborhoods in the city of Austin. As long as UT has been a major university it has had and will continue to have a healthy student population (which is most definitely SHOULD HAVE). If we're going to solve the problems with Austin's congestion it will necessarily mean getting people to live CLOSE to their places of work/study so that they can walk, bike or take transit for the vast majority of their trips.

There is no negative to students living in Hyde Park. And it's beyond ludicrous to suggest that students are completing with the rich folks who work downtown for the half-million dollar bungalows.

I know LOTS of people who live in Hyde Park with kids - you could not pry them out of that neighborhood with a crow-bar.