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Old 06-26-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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That is a very common opinion.


But watch the 1 hr long documentary recently done by a Seattle TV station.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw


You might change your mind. I did.
I watched this video and it is slanted horribly in a "police can solve it" kind of way. The police can't solve this. You can't lock your way out of this problem.

My layered solution is the answer, not this BS

Seattle, like SF has a lot of homelessness because the housing prices are high. I was reading that a lot of google employees in the Bay Area camp out in trailers on random streets next to business parks where the businesses turn a blind eye because they know these are google employees. So the question really is, do you want to live in a society where google employees can't afford a house? The same thing is happening in Seattle. Amazon employees have to camp out, at the same time Jeff Bezos has $100 billion and growing. AOC was right in not wanting Amazon relocated to NYC.

The solution is low cost housing and mixed use housing. A lot of NIMBYs don't like it but it solves the housing crises and homeless problem.

We are at a point in our society where the wealth distribution difference between the top & bottom is worse than before the French revolution and you know what happened then and that was before social media. Cities are going to have to do what I'm saying they have to do or it ain't gonna be pretty this time. I've studied way too much history and I know how this ends.

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Old 06-26-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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Housing cost is not as much an issue as employment. And a large number of the homeless are children. 1/3 are women, and many (most?) are there due to spousal abuse. There is no one answer.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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I would bet that the vast majority of
Homeless are the illegals, ignorant, lack of a education, lazy sob that don’t want to work or who made stupid choices and they can only work as car washers or hamburger flippers

How many of you had two jobs ate beans rice after your first house
And did what ever it took to buy it?

Yes house cost a lot. They did in 1985 too when we were making 12 bucks a hour

Suck it up and grow a pair
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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I would bet that the vast majority of
Homeless are the illegals, ignorant, lack of a education, lazy sob that don’t want to work or who made stupid choices and they can only work as car washers or hamburger flippers

How many of you had two jobs ate beans rice after your first house
And did what ever it took to buy it?

Yes house cost a lot. They did in 1985 too when we were making 12 bucks a hour

Suck it up and grow a pair
I know economic concepts aren't really your thing, but you do realize that $12/hr in 1985 is the equivalent of about $29/hr in today's money... right? If you don't understand the impact of that, and the fact that wages have not risen relative to the price of housing in many metro areas, absolutely nothing will help you.

You know what would help the crisis in many of these cities? If you and your backwoods kind quit shipping your homeless to them.
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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I would bet that the vast majority of
Homeless are the illegals, ignorant, lack of a education, lazy sob that don’t want to work or who made stupid choices and they can only work as car washers or hamburger flippers

How many of you had two jobs ate beans rice after your first house
And did what ever it took to buy it?

Yes house cost a lot. They did in 1985 too when we were making 12 bucks a hour

Suck it up and grow a pair
What do you suggest we do with the homeless? Round them up and put them in prison?

You do realize that is more expensive than housing them in a homeless shelter do you?
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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What do you suggest we do with the homeless? Round them up and put them in prison?

You do realize that is more expensive than housing them in a homeless shelter do you?
Knee jerk reactions wont help. Like anything knowledge is power. This problem stems back to the 1950's when congress hired lairs to testify on their behalf that the system was broken and needed to be dismantled to save money.
The result is what we see today where families are burdened, they do not have the skills or resources, and ultimately prisons being the solution.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Knee jerk reactions wont help. Like anything knowledge is power. This problem stems back to the 1950's when congress hired lairs to testify on their behalf that the system was broken and needed to be dismantled to save money.
The result is what we see today where families are burdened, they do not have the skills or resources, and ultimately prisons being the solution.
The dissolution of the asylum prison system is probably the biggest culprit. The big institutions weren't nice but they at least kept the insane housed and fed.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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A mental institution, drug rehab, or prison: most homeless belong in one of the three.
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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A mental institution, drug rehab, or prison: most homeless belong in one of the three.
I think that is the common perception, but there are a lot of children and a lot of abused women that have fled bad domestic situations.
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:34 PM
 
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A mental institution, drug rehab, or prison: most homeless belong in one of the three.
This is woefully myopic. I’d really suggest taking a few hours out of your week to work with these people you judge from afar. There are literally millions of people across this nation that do not fit these categories that do not know where there next meal is coming from or have a reliable roof to sleep under. Hundreds of thousands of those are children.

But a big mahalo for supporting the narrative.
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