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Old 08-22-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Some of her comments and policies were reported in that manner here in Aus, along with her role in the Union of Socialist Youth. From memory she was referred to as a "Commie" by one of the more conservative papers.
What sort of comments and policies? - a quick google search doesn't reveal much.

The Union of Socialist Youth (had to google it) doesn't seem extreme.

Commie wouldn't be the sort of thing a real journalist would say in earnest.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:07 AM
 
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What sort of comments and policies? - a quick google search doesn't reveal much.

The Union of Socialist Youth (had to google it) doesn't seem extreme.

Commie wouldn't be the sort of thing a real journalist would say in earnest.
If your walk doesn't include an ever so slight click of the heels on here, a number will write you off as a Commie. Never heard of Union of Socialist Youth, but so? She never claimed to be otherwise than of the Left. More power to her. new Zealand was a few decades plus ago, a fine country that sold out its base to neoliberal policies which it never recovered from.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:37 AM
 
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If your walk doesn't include an ever so slight click of the heels on here, a number will write you off as a Commie. Never heard of Union of Socialist Youth, but so? She never claimed to be otherwise than of the Left. More power to her. new Zealand was a few decades plus ago, a fine country that sold out its base to neoliberal policies which it never recovered from.
A couple of posters are doing the whole rabid lefty thing, which doesn't really fit in with the typical NZ political context, as I see it.

I'm not so opposed to the neoliberal policies, and see them and the culture they promote, as an essential aspect of a functional democracy.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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A couple of posters are doing the whole rabid lefty thing, which doesn't really fit in with the typical NZ political context, as I see it.

I'm not so opposed to the neoliberal policies, and see them and the culture they promote, as an essential aspect of a functional democracy.
That sort of rhetoric will have you labelled a nazi or righttard around here.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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That sort of rhetoric will have you labelled a nazi or righttard around here.
Probably because so many of the above described have decided to make this a forum to dispatch their hate. As well you know.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:51 AM
 
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A couple of posters are doing the whole rabid lefty thing, which doesn't really fit in with the typical NZ political context, as I see it.

I'm not so opposed to the neoliberal policies, and see them and the culture they promote, as an essential aspect of a functional democracy.
Do you think Arden is a rabid leftist? I think it fits rather well historically with the NZ context. No there is certainly democracy outside of neoliberal policies which are increasingly being brought into question as in many aspects being 'failed dogma' and new perspectives being sought.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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Do you think Arden is a rabid leftist? I think it fits rather well historically with the NZ context. No there is certainly democracy outside of neoliberal policies which are increasingly being brought into question as in many aspects being 'failed dogma' and new perspectives being sought.
No, another poster thinks Adern is a rabid lefty, although they have failed to answer to my reply to them.

Not saying democracy only needs neoliberal policies/government -just that a well balanced political spectrum will incorporate neoliberal policies. NZ is a better country for the implementation of some neoliberal policy, imo.
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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A couple of posters are doing the whole rabid lefty thing, which doesn't really fit in with the typical NZ political context, as I see it.
She has been labelled a "Commie" by one conservative reporter, which shouldn't be hard to find. But if rhetoric that "capitalism has failed New Zealanders..." isn't viewed as classic hard left in NZ, doesn't that reflect the country's centre of balance being more to the left when compared to countries like Australia?
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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She has been labelled a "Commie" by one conservative reporter, which shouldn't be hard to find. But if rhetoric that "capitalism has failed New Zealanders..." isn't viewed as classic hard left in NZ,doesn't that reflect the country's centre of balance being more to the left when compared to countries like Australia?
No, because that statement was in the context of policies under which the wealth gap has become greater than Australia's wealth gap, and housing has become more unaffordable than Australia.

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Old 08-24-2018, 05:00 PM
 
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No, because that statement was in the context of policies under which the wealth gap has become greater than Australia's wealth gap, and housing has become more unaffordable than Australia.
They'd certainly get you labelled a left winger in Australia. A politician wanting to discuss affordable housing or similar issues here would most likely choose a very different ideological starting point and rhetoric.
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