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Old 01-10-2022, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Few people think he is a bad guy, as mentioned in the previous post, that Australian people are worried he might spread COVID is complete rubbish, its a media beat up, we are already getting 50,000 odd cases a day, and I dare say their would already be 10's of thousands of people out their walking around with COVID, but have no idea they even have it to start with.

What riles Aussies far more is if laws are been applied differently to the rich and famous, than ordinary people.
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Old 01-10-2022, 06:54 PM
 
Location: DFW
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What riles Aussies far more is if laws are been applied differently to the rich and famous, than ordinary people.
We get it. We here in the US have the same problem... Rules for thee but not for me.

That is a problem Worldwide with the "Ruling Class". They are htpocrites.
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Old 01-11-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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Someone who recently had covid is almost impossible to get it again a month later which makes the whole vaccine requirement political. Many countries in Europe recognize natural immunity. Djokovic won the court battle and yet he could still get deported for another reason...

Djokovic got the case dismissed based on a procedural issue and not on the merits of the case. He had the right to challenge it and won. The government/people of Australia have the right to issue new deportation proceeding.

Similarly, some criminals have had their cases dismissed on technicalities. It doesn't mean they are innocent. At the same time some innocent citizens have been convicted because the state circumvents its required procedure.

Personally, I would like to see a new deportation proceeding addressing the merits of the case.
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Old 01-11-2022, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Quite frankly, I'm not sure how one can oppose Djokovic's entry but be in favor of the Australian Open being played at all. The latter is 100% more likely to affect the infection numbers in Victoria than Djokovic's presence in Australia.


I don't know how that can even be disputed. It seems to me that barring Djokovic is just a gesture designed to symbolically punish all unvaccinated folks i.e. a classic case of scapegoating. And as an arrogant, rich guy playing a rich man's sport, he of course makes an easy scapegoat.
He should be setting an example to others.
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Old 01-11-2022, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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EVERY free person should be above useless, stupid, and/or tyrannical laws.
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Old 01-11-2022, 03:22 PM
 
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Who is doing that? The ABF rules are that no unvaccinated foreigners would be permitted to enter Australia unless they had a medical exemption, and prior infection would not be counted as a medical exemption. The Victorian Premier said the same back in November with words to the effect that no unvaccinated players would be permitted to play in the AO. What is p!ssing people off is that those were the rules of the road and then Djokovic blatantly disregards those rules and gets to play.

No one comes off looking very good in this whole saga, but forget the BS canard that people are opposed to him entering because he might spread covid.
It all could have been spared if Australia had not issues visa's in the first place. It's not the individuals at fault but again government.
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Old 01-11-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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He should be setting an example to others.
Why? He was issued a visa. It's the Australian government that should be consistent.
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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Why? He was issued a visa. It's the Australian government that should be consistent.
A visa is only a travel document and not an absolute right to stay in the country. Border inspectors at international airports reject many applicants for various reasons including misrepresentation everyday. Djokovic lied on his entry declaration that he did not travel to any other country.

You should try to falsify the entry declaration on your next intentional trip and see what happens.
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Old 01-12-2022, 03:42 PM
 
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A visa is only a travel document and not an absolute right to stay in the country. Border inspectors at international airports reject many applicants for various reasons including misrepresentation everyday. Djokovic lied on his entry declaration that he did not travel to any other country.

You should try to falsify the entry declaration on your next intentional trip and see what happens.
I'm aware what a visa is. Thing being this is no 'ordinary' person and repercussions should have been known. Fact is it was known he didn't have a vax. If for example, he was picked up on falsifying his application prior to being held in detention on matters that were known previously, it would not have sounded as vindictive and hence bad. But that is not the case.

It has been dealt poorly from start to finish. Not too untypical though from our politicians.
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Old 01-12-2022, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Djokovic could have obtained a fake vaccine certificate, it's pretty easy to do that in the Balkan countries and it would have saved him a lot of this drama. And yet he didn't do that. Now they are trying to point out all of his mistakes because they have nothing else against him at the moment. Pretty pathetic from the Australian government.
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