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Old 07-06-2010, 02:52 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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To me, having a Toyota logo on the hood shows you're smart, and looking for the best value. A GM logo even on a virtually identical car means MUCH different things!
You couldn't have chosen a better handle for yourself....
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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It works in the lower end, too. The Toyota Matrix and the Pontiac Vibe were identical cars mechanically, with a few differences in grille and trim. The Vibe actually was a bit better looking in my eye, but I would NEVER buy a car with a Pontiac badge on it!

To me, having a Toyota logo on the hood shows you're smart, and looking for the best value. A GM logo even on a virtually identical car means MUCH different things!
And you're proud of this?
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:26 PM
 
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Hey, she could have done worse and picked up a Ford Excursion for trips to the mall because "it's cooler than a minivan".
LOL. I always poke fun at fathers who drive SUVs. I tell them they're just driving a minivan in disguise because they're afraid to be seen in one.
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:59 PM
 
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LOL. I always poke fun at fathers who drive SUVs. I tell them they're just driving a minivan in disguise because they're afraid to be seen in one.

Maybe they just don't like minivans. On the flip side, I always poke fun at people who decide not to drive any car they like because they think someone might think it conveys some kinda message about them one way or the other. Drive what you want, don't worry about the little people that like to judge as if their opinion matters.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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LOL. I always poke fun at fathers who drive SUVs. I tell them they're just driving a minivan in disguise because they're afraid to be seen in one.
I already promised myself I'd never own a minivan in a million years, I simply am not going to buy a vehicle that looks like a phallus on wheels. I'd much rather buy my (future) wife a Chevy Suburban or Ford Expedition over any minivan.

And conspicuous consumption is everywhere, there are some folks who only buy a vehicle solely upon the emblem on the grille. Mercedes are terrible value vehicles, they charge a premium price for EVERYTHING but get away with it because of their brand name.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is nothing new. Just about all the women I know do this. They know absolutely nothing about the car except the brand name, the color and if they're smart they might know the model name.

I'm a woman and I can give you all the specs on all three of my cars and my motorcycle. And I know plenty of guys who could not tell me the displacement on their engine...so can the chauvanist tripe.

Badge buyers come in all shapes, sizes, and genders...

And I do find it stupid. But it's what keeps the entry level luxury market alive.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL. I always poke fun at fathers who drive SUVs. I tell them they're just driving a minivan in disguise because they're afraid to be seen in one.

What's so funny about needing transporation for a lot of kids and their gear? I mean, I get it...mini vans are not cool or whatever, but it's immature to make fun of guys who drive them.

Unlike us, there are people out there who buy cars SOLELY for the utility of it.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I already promised myself I'd never own a minivan in a million years, I simply am not going to buy a vehicle that looks like a phallus on wheels. I'd much rather buy my (future) wife a Chevy Suburban or Ford Expedition over any minivan.

The Z4, with its super-long hood and blunt, rounded front end, always reminded me of a giant peener.

What's even remotely phallic about this?


If anything it's got the side profile of a pregnant woman laying down...

Back on topic though...

When I lived in LA, probably 2/3rds of the BMW M's I saw on any given day were convertibles driven by corporate power players yakking on Blackberries (before the hands-free laws) whom I can guarantee you didn't buy it because of its 333-horse, 3.2l, individual-throttle-bodied S54 engine, or because it was mated to a Getrag 6-speed. No, they got it because they walked into a BMW dealership and deigned to buy the most expensive convertible they made (at the time), and got it with SMG they left in automatic mode because clutches are icky and confusing.

That all said, I don't find these people to be any less obnoxious, perplexing, or regrettable than the Deutschenfanboi who saves up the necessary 50% down to finance a used 7-year old 325i 4-door tiptronic and then proceeds to swear up and down that it's infinitely better, cooler, faster, and "has more soul" than a Japanese sports coupe that is that is infinitely better, cooler, faster, and has more soul than the generic, entry-level German sedan he bought.

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Old 07-06-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I have to say, you don't need to understand "specs" to know what you love driving. I know only a little about cars, and just choose based on how it drives & feels... I was dead set on NOT getting a Honda as my last purchase, but when I tried cars in that price/class it spoke for itself.

My mother happens to have a Mercedes S-Class, and WOW that thing can fly - and smoothly!! in fact, I got pulled over going 95mph down I-80 in that baby... even the officer laughed (as he wrote me a ticket) when I said "sorry, hard not to speed in this car!" As much as I love my $18,500 Honda Accord, there is absolutely no comparison to my mother's Mercedes. As she always says, you get what you pay for, and that's especially true with automobiles. Of course some people just buy them for status, but it's not like you're getting a Chevy-quality vehicle in that price range. Although to be honest, I'd rather have a BMW for the money.

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Old 07-06-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I'm a woman and I can give you all the specs on all three of my cars and my motorcycle. And I know plenty of guys who could not tell me the displacement on their engine...so can the chauvanist tripe.

Badge buyers come in all shapes, sizes, and genders...

And I do find it stupid. But it's what keeps the entry level luxury market alive.

Yea, I know there are some women out there that can. I just have never met one as of yet lol.
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