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You do realise that fleet vehicles are not the same as noraml vehicles on many parts.For example many of the engine brackets are heavier duty and the crown vic had a guard behind the tank which was never put there after the rearend fires never done on public sale models.
Misleading and for the most part untrue. The defining feature of vehicles being the "same" across the board is the interchangeability of parts not whether or not they are built to the same spec.
You do realise that fleet vehicles are not the same as noraml vehicles on many parts.For example many of the engine brackets are heavier duty and the crown vic had a guard behind the tank which was never put there after the rearend fires never done on public sale models.
The police interceptors got the upgrades and a lot of taxis are retired p.I.'s
Not surprising. We've been seeing smaller taxi's here in chicago for several years. There are a tone of Scion Xb's and toyota corollas running around. In fact Ican't tell you the last time I saw a Crown Vic Taxi.
True that there are lots of xBs plus some Sonatas. Accords, Impalas, etc, but you can't go 30 seconds in downtown Chicago without seeing a Crown Vic cab. I see a dozen outside my window right now.
LOL! It's hilarious that someone refuses to take a taxi (one that is better than the car it replaces in terms of a taxi's needs) because it isn't American. The article actually states that 70% of Nissan's sold in America are made in America while the model that Ford submitted was made overseas.
I know, it's funny. What can you say? I'd love to see him in a hurry to the airport, and all he sees are Nissans...telling himself "I'll wait till I find a domestic cab"
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How sad...Nissan? Please...
Give me a good ole' Crown Vic everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
I bet you'll be able to find plenty of them once they sell them.
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I can't imagine that the Nissan would be bigger then the Crown Vic. The Nissan is hardly a full size car.
For the passengers I don't think the Nissan's (or any of the other cars noted) are better. The biggest reason for the Crown Vic's were the large size in the cabin and the big trunk more then any thing else.
They have more trunk space and legroom. I've been in one in France. It was a Renault (the same ones they'll be using in NYC). They're comfortable and give better gas mileage. I will say the Crown Vic feels like you're on water (they feel like boats). Comfortable, but they're boring to drive. I can't stand cars that are too soft, to the point that there is no connection to the road. To be driven in one is cool, to drive one...snoooze!!
If I can't feel the road, I don't want to drive it. But since NYC roads are so bad, the Crown Vic is not a bad car. But again, the Nissan wins in MPGs and space. And let's not forget design (to me, anyways). That's a subjective issue.
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It's my choice.
Besides, as I said, I rarely need a taxi... I own 4 cars (all American-built... I mean actually designed and built in America).
How would a Nissan be "better" than the car it replaces? Certainly not in ride, or comfort or interior room, especially shoulder and hip room or long-term reliability.
Why can't it be better? I won't argue with you over it. I think it is better in many ways, but I give the Crown Vic its (few) credits. But with the price of gas and efficiency (design/ergonomics), the Crown Vic is a Dinosaur.
You do realise that fleet vehicles are not the same as noraml vehicles on many parts.For example many of the engine brackets are heavier duty and the crown vic had a guard behind the tank which was never put there after the rearend fires never done on public sale models.
You do realize that your statement has very little to do with what I said. Whether or not fleet vehicles have different parts compared to their usual dealer counterparts changes nothing about the ease of having a fleet with one type of vehicle where parts exchanges and repairs are identical (because they are working on the same car).
I know, it's funny. What can you say? I'd love to see him in a hurry to the airport, and all he sees are Nissans...telling himself "I'll wait till I find a domestic cab"
Extremely rare when I am at an airport. The last time was well over 20 years ago. Crown Vic cabs are easy to find where I live.
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Why can't it be better? I won't argue with you over it. I think it is better in many ways, but I give the Crown Vic its (few) credits. But with the price of gas and efficiency (design/ergonomics), the Crown Vic is a Dinosaur.
Some people like dinosaur cars. Why do you think classic cars are so popular? A Crown Vic should average 18-20 mpg (like my Town Car does) with comfort and room for 6 people.
Some people like dinosaur cars. Why do you think classic cars are so popular? A Crown Vic should average 18-20 mpg (like my Town Car does) with comfort and room for 6 people.
Right on! My DTS get's 18 mpg...the trade off is well worth it! I couldn't bring myself to drive a foreign make. I don't care where it was constructed.
Right on! My DTS get's 18 mpg...the trade off is well worth it! I couldn't bring myself to drive a foreign make. I don't care where it was constructed.
Why would you not care where its constructed? I personally agree that where its made/engineered/designed doesn't matter as I buy the best car for my money regardless of make. But the typical argument for buying American is that it supports Americans which is a funny line of thought when the car is assembled by foreigners. If the goal is to support American's, go buy a Nissan because average Joe American assembled it in Tennessee, etc. Aside from assembly, a lot of the engineering and design work for domestic makes occurs in Europe, Asia, etc. GM's and Ford's these days are as foreign as Honda's and Toyota's (sometimes more so).
I rented a car today - I had asked for a compact car but was upgraded to a Nissan Altima. They didn't have any compacts left because so many people are renting due to their cars being hail damaged in recent storms, and EVERYONE is requestion small, economy or compact cars due to gas prices. At first I balked at getting the Altima, it's a big honking car, but I needed a rental due to an emergency situation.
Guess what I have found? That driving IS actually fun again when you have some horsepower and a little get-up-and go in your vehicle! The Altima is awesome. I know, I know, the gas mileage is bound to be awful. But isn't it sad that we have been relegated to "puttering" around, rather than actually "driving" around because they have us by the you-know-whats on gas?
We need to find an alternative fuel - and get back to the THRILL of driving again.
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What can you say? I'd love to see him in a hurry to the airport, and all he sees are Nissans...telling himself "I'll wait till I find a domestic cab" 
