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Old 04-30-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I'm visiting Israel on business, and here before you get a green light, you get red and yellow flashed together for a split second. It gets you ready to go without really giving you enough time to run the light. Seems to work really well and keep traffic flowing better. Does anywhere in the states do this?
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:02 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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That does sound like a fantastic idea. US road systems focus more on safety than anything else... its annoying. Are the intersections there very good at traffic detection?
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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They don't do it up here. Matter of fact, our lights are red in both directions for 2 seconds before one turns green. We call it "Snow slide light".

If the 2 tenths of a second makes or breaks them getting to work on time, they need to leave home earlier.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:15 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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That does sound like a fantastic idea. US road systems focus more on safety than anything else... its annoying. Are the intersections there very good at traffic detection?
I haven't been behind the wheel yet, but it doesn't seem like there is traffic detection in most places. In California there are sensors everywhere so after dark, they behave like stop signs unless you're going in the primary direction..
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:15 AM
 
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A heads up about Traffic lights here in America, if you have the green light dont assume the guy who has the red light is going to stop, i'm seeing more and more people just blow through red lights and stop signs these days,
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I think in the Netherlands, there is a timer on the red light, that ticks down to tell you how soon it will change to green. Considering how many Americans are sitting at red lights texting or changing clothes or terrorizing their children in the backseat, or cleaning up their spilled coffee, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

Do some traffic lights in San Francisco still audibly ding when they change?

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If the 2 tenths of a second makes or breaks them getting to work on time, they need to leave home earlier.
It's not about the two seconds that a single driver is delayed, It about the four seconds (two each way) that traffic is stopped in all directions, out of the 40 seconds of each cycle, which reduces by ten percent the maximum amount of traffic flow an intersection can handle without backups. Which is a critical consideration during rush hour, because it increases by ten percent (which is compounded, like interest) the amount of backlogged traffic at each traffic light, which all adds up cumulatively to the total delays in a commute.

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Old 05-01-2011, 05:40 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I think in the Netherlands, there is a timer on the red light, that ticks down to tell you how soon it will change to green. Considering how many Americans are sitting at red lights texting or changing clothes or terrorizing their children in the backseat, or cleaning up their spilled coffee, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

Do some traffic lights in San Francisco still audibly ding when they change?
I don't know about that. When I'm driving in the Bay Area and sitting at a stoplight, I'm trying to watch the other lights to see when they turn red. In some areas the walk signals are audible, as a guide to blind pedestrians.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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That won't work here in LA where soooo many ppl are distracted with emails, txting & now the whole freakin WWW on their smartphones. Not a day goes by where I or someone else doesn't have to honk to get the attention of drivers who view red lights as legitimate timeouts to check messages. I even know one idiot lawyer who spends his time in bumper-to-bumper traffic composing emails on his crackberry to pad his billable hours!
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I haven't been behind the wheel yet, but it doesn't seem like there is traffic detection in most places.
The traffic detection is primarily on the highways. They look like overhead sign holders, but without the signs. Most interections are roundabouts so brush up on entering and leaving one and correct use of signals. My company gets me an Isuzu dmax so I feel at home while I'm there. Driving through Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are probably the worst for traffic congestion that comes to a near stand still.

If you do get behind the wheel and come up to a red light, watch for the load of mopeds/motorcyles that all pull in front of the all the cars.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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Lots of Europe goes Red-Yellow-Green. The yellow gives you time to put the car in gear (manual transmission).
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