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Old 09-23-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop - The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - TIME

many of you don't care for the Mopar fuselages so i'm sure you would agree with the link!!
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop - The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - TIME

many of you don't care for the Mopar fuselages so i'm sure you would agree with the link!!
For those that don't like GM there are far more to choose from on that list than Mopar products, no big surprise.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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1971 Chrysler Imperial LeBaron Two-Door Hardtop - The 50 Worst Cars of All Time - TIME

many of you don't care for the Mopar fuselages so i'm sure you would agree with the link!!
The 1971 Imperial is on the list, but not a '71-'77 Chevy Vega?

That is a big mistake right there.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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This article was obviously not written by a car guy. I wonder what the author's idea of motoring nirvana is - probably some sort of Japanese 4-door sedan, plain as a mud fence. An "appliance car" guy just does not "get" a big 2-door car. The same way a far gone wino does not "get" a decent to good wine for $8 to $10 a bottle even. Sad really. That particular MoPar, IMHO, was not as good-looking as contempory GM or Ford/Lincoln/Mercury cars, but it's better than the Universal Jellybean styling of current production.

The worst 71 model was and still is, in stock trim, way better than almost all 74 models - exceptions being the few with fuel injection like the BMW and Porsche cars of 74.

What's weird about the Vega, is that the engine block is made of the same alloy as a Porsche 928, but the genius cost-engineers at GM decided to omit the acid wash step that gives the Porker's cylinder walls their well-known virtual immortality - with the well-known result that the Vega engine wore out quick, and it was the block, rather than the pistons and rings (bad enough) that wore out.
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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While I agree with some of that list it feel the people that put the list together should have their writing privileges revoked and their heads examined. There were far worse cars than what made it to that list. And for the record. I like the 70/71 Imperial 2 door.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:17 PM
 
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What's weird about the Vega, is that the engine block is made of the same alloy as a Porsche 928, but the genius cost-engineers at GM decided to omit the acid wash step that gives the Porker's cylinder walls their well-known virtual immortality - with the well-known result that the Vega engine wore out quick, and it was the block, rather than the pistons and rings (bad enough) that wore out.
the other big problems with the vega motor, there were many, was teh cast iron head, and the open deck design.

as to the op, the guy puts the pinto on the list, and not the vega which was a worse car than the pinto? and he puts the gremlin on, but not the hornet? especially since the gremlin was a chopped off hornet. as for the model T, that we a decent car for its time.

as was indicated, the guy has no clue about cars.
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Old 09-24-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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"It was powered by Chrysler's silly-big 440-cu.-in. V8"

which is all that really mattered.
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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"It was powered by Chrysler's silly-big 440-cu.-in. V8"

which is all that really mattered.
It wasn't "silly big." The car weighed a lot and the engine was a de-tuned, emission-laden V-8 by 1971.

What about many modern cars with 400-500+ horsepower... are those silly-powerful engines?
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Kronenwetter, Wis
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The guy lists the Gremlin as having vacumm wipers and says the heavy 6-cyl engine gives it ill handling. Geesh, my '70 Gremlin has electric wipers and the "heavy" 6-cyl engine gives it great handling. As far as the styling....let's just say it's unique and easily recognizable
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:27 AM
 
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"....It was powered by Chrysler's silly-big 440-cu.-in. V8"

That writer is definitely more at home living in a walkable downtown and probably considers a bicycle, bus or train all he needs for transportation.

Look what he said about the '09 Model T:

"It put America on wheels, supercharged the nation's economy and transformed the landscape in ways unimagined when the first Tin Lizzy rolled out of the factory. Well, that's just the problem, isn't it? The Model T ....... conferred to Americans the notion of automobility as something akin to natural law, a right endowed by our Creator. A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up...."

What a handwinging pansy.
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