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Old 10-22-2007, 03:00 AM
 
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I think she was going for coolness and not safety - arean't all 16 year olds invincible? Anyway, thanks for the input - I understand and share your concerns...just curious to get a varied cross section of people so that when I tell her why we didn't get it for her, we can blame you guys!
Best of luck, Dougnaie! That's right, I fogot that teenagers are invincible and immortal!
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:50 PM
 
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Having owned a '71 Kombi, I can tell you this is the poorest choice of vehicle to give a young driver. This vehicle is not for an inexperienced driver. They are underpowered ( trust me), not very good brakes on early models (the '71 is the first year for disc brakes), and there is no heat. Not just poor, none. I used to have to scrape the inside of my windshield. Plus, they leak oil like crazy, always need tweeking of some sort, and really should be owned by people who like to work on cars. I've owned a few air-cooled vehicles, and they are not easy to deal with.

The safety issue is the number one thing. If you were to get hit in the front of one of those, the entire front end will cave in on your legs. Not a vehicle to give the worst segment of drivers on the road in terms of accidents and fatalities. If she wants a VW, get her a New Beetle. Cute, fun to drive and they have HEAT. You will need it in Conn. Sorry, Doug. It's a no for me.
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:53 PM
 
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i so want a vw buses its been my dream for so long, but what are the bad thing about them. are they ok in snow and what abut heating.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Meeami
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Longtime vw and current vw bus owner. I would have to say no. Buy something newer, safer, and more reliabile than any 30-40 car could ever be.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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if she must have a VW maybe look at a late model GTI they are alot more reliable and easy to operate than a 50 year old air cooled VW micro bus that are very underpowered which can just as dangerous as a overpowered car for younger drivers plus the hassle of dealing with the carbs is just not worth it unless you are and enthusiast and like to tinker with them a modren F.I. car would be better suited to some just learning how to drive and maintain a car.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:25 PM
 
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I don't know what it is about teenage girls that seem to make them want one...both of my daughters went through that phase, and no way on God's green earth did I let them have one.

Apart from the safety issues (ever see one after a head on collision?), heat issues, power issues, handling issues, fuel economy issues, it's a great machine! (Actually, they are easy to work on, which is a plus, because you will be.)

Most people I know today who want one have never driven one.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I agree with those that say an old VW bus is a terrible choice for a 16 yr. old driver. Warm OR cold weather.

Safety is THE issue with drivers this age. The only good thing about the bus is its height and view out the front. But that height also creates its poor stability in cross winds and I bet it carries high rollover risk.

It doesn't even have an airbag. Do you want your child driving in a vehicle that could kill her in a collision that wouldn't scratch her if she was in a Honda Fit?

One thing about teenage drivers - they are nowhere near the driver they think they are. And they get in accidents because they get hit by other vehicles. They are in the wrong lane, turn suddenly, talk on the phone, etc.

Normally I'd say horsepower is a bad thing with teenagers. But an underpowered car has its own danger. It can't accelerate to avoid an accident. It will hold up cars getting up to speed.

BTW - I have two teenage drivers now and one that will be 16 next summer.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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What is so funny.
Owners have always stated they can work on VW's themselves. The real problem is that you are always working on them, always!
Getting a mechanic to work on them is easy, just very expensive. So, cheap bastards we are - we do it ourselves.
I have had 6 beetles, two buses and currently a 74 thing. I can't drive it around the block without working on it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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I agree with those that say an old VW bus is a terrible choice for a 16 yr. old driver. Warm OR cold weather.

Safety is THE issue with drivers this age. The only good thing about the bus is its height and view out the front. But that height also creates its poor stability in cross winds and I bet it carries high rollover risk.

It doesn't even have an airbag. Do you want your child driving in a vehicle that could kill her in a collision that wouldn't scratch her if she was in a Honda Fit?

One thing about teenage drivers - they are nowhere near the driver they think they are. And they get in accidents because they get hit by other vehicles. They are in the wrong lane, turn suddenly, talk on the phone, etc.

Normally I'd say horsepower is a bad thing with teenagers. But an underpowered car has its own danger. It can't accelerate to avoid an accident. It will hold up cars getting up to speed.

BTW - I have two teenage drivers now and one that will be 16 next summer.
I guarentee you, I'd be able to keep up with traffic anywhere in the states with my 86hp Corolla, don't need much more than that. 100hp will easily do.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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Get a Pinto and cross your fingers. Moving from Cali to CT must suck. I would know since I lived in CT for awhile. It is ah-boring.
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