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Old 04-08-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
Lane splitting de facto opens an extra lane, albeit only for some vehicles. In your experience, does adding lanes make traffic move
  1. Faster, or
  2. Slower?
Take all the time you want.
Let me answer for him.

If they move faster than me, that's bad.

Until we get over the feeling that you are entitled to a space cushion around your vehicle no matter what, it's going to be a huge issue.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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Let me answer for him.

If they move faster than me, that's bad.

Until we get over the feeling that you are entitled to a space cushion around your vehicle no matter what, it's going to be a huge issue.
And his mindset is exactly why we can't have nice things.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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bla bla
I'm special because I ride a bike.
I ride a bike I go to front of line...

I guess no one taught you to wait your turn...

Get a dedicated lane, then...

If it was such a good idea more states would allow it.
California is fill of **** jobs...
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:49 AM
 
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bla bla
I'm special because I ride a bike.
I ride a bike I go to front of line...

I guess no one taught you to wait your turn...

Get a dedicated lane, then...


If it was such a good idea more states would allow it.
California is fill of **** jobs...
Lane Splitting being legal means that there IS a dedicated lane for motorcycles. Get it?
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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I guess we need to take one of the car lanes and dedicate it to motorcycles only.

That way some people can finally be happy while they wait in an even longer line.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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nope, I use my lane, get you own lane, get it.

I can use my whole lane, I can use ether side of it at any time, as I have the right of way. It's just stupid to try to compete with a car with a cycle for a lane

I shouldn't have to worries if a cycle is in my lane and right next to me,
that is why we have lanes, marked by striping.
Why mark the lanes at all if we'er not going to even acknowledge them.

Anyway as I look at ot it is just fall out from the CHIP, motor cop.
they want the ability to lane split so the the law allows it.



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Lane Splitting being legal means that there IS a dedicated lane for motorcycles. Get it?
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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nope, I use my lane, get you own lane, get it.

I can use my whole lane, I can use ether side of it at any time, as I have the right of way. It's just stupid to try to compete with a car with a cycle for a lane

I shouldn't have to worries if a cycle is in my lane and right next to me,
that is why we have lanes, marked by striping.
Why mark the lanes at all if we'er not going to even acknowledge them.

Anyway as I look at ot it is just fall out from the CHIP, motor cop.
they want the ability to lane split so the the law allows it.
Sounds like pure, unadulterated selfishness to me - with a little bit of overcompensation thrown in for good measure.

I'd suggest you stay up there in your frozen tundra, and never go to cities where lane-splitting is legal, and you cutting of motorcycles is highly illegal. It'll be better for everyone.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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bla bla
I'm special because I ride a bike.
In a sense. I had the sense to pick a vehicle that's good in traffic - too bad for you that you didn't, but the shortcomings of your choice really do not reflect on me.


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I ride a bike I go to front of line...

I guess no one taught you to wait your turn...
It's not a single queue. I am in fact shortening the average wait time.

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Get a dedicated lane, then...
There's room, the law says I can - that settles it, as far as I'm concerned.

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If it was such a good idea more states would allow it.
California is fill of **** jobs...
Well, stay in fly-over land where the motorcyclists know their place, then.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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There's room, the law says I can - that settles it, as far as I'm concerned.
Not so much.

The question posed ("should we permit") is framed as a "what"...
when the real issue is about the "how" and the 'when" of doing it.

Too many confuse interpretive latitude (like with the CA law) or tolerance with general permission.
Let alone confusing the variety of definitions for the term to include everything from the
red light filtering to whitelining at speed.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Not so much.

The question posed ("should we permit") is framed as a "what"...
when the real issue is about the "how" and the 'when" of doing it.

Too many confuse interpretive latitude (like with the CA law) or tolerance with general permission.
Let alone confusing the variety of definitions for the term to include everything from the
red light filtering to whitelining at speed.
I think that the intelligent thing to do, would be to honestly observe what happens in metro areas where lane-splitting IS legal. Is it causing problems, or doing good things, in San Fran (for instance)? Increased motorcycle accidents, or decreased congestion? I think THOSE are the questions that need to be asked, and we now have a way to ask them.
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