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The difference is a crime caries with it a jail term an offense does not.
Now the Q.
Can you do jail time for speeding.
The answer is yes.
When your speeding turns into reckless driving.
Reckless driving is a crime, and not an infraction, and in California must be a combination of 3 offenses or more. Speeding as a singular infraction cannot be considered a crime.
Not one that will let you delete any emissions.
Give'em a call, I'll waite.
With out deleting the emissions (egr- DPF) you will have a hard time keepit it running with a so called "tunner?
Who uses bully dog?
EPA is going after SCT, when they start this, hptuners, bullydog, dynojet etc... every company that produces a product to control emissions systems will be thrown on to the chopping block.
what you'll get back from them is this.
Our decision to discontinue these products is based on recent statements made by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regarding diesel performance products intended solely for racing/off-road use. The EPA and CARB have taken the position that the manufacturer of such products is solely responsible for the proper use of those products by the end-user. Despite our best efforts to carefully develop and implement procedures designed to ensure that each purchaser of our off-road/race-only products is aware of his or her legal obligations and promises to use those products in a lawful manner, as of this time we have not been able to gain satisfactory assurance that such measures will be considered adequate by the EPA and CARB. Consequently, we have chosen to withdraw our off-road/race-only products from the marketplace until we are able to verify that the sale of those products can be achieved in a manner that satisfies EPA’s and CARB’s concerns.
Yea, yea, none of them have pulled there products from their web pages but they are not shipping them out ether.
AUTOMOTIVE ELECTRONICS MANUFACTURER FINED $500,000 FOR SELLING ILLEGAL DEVICES RESULTING IN TONS OF EXCESS PARTICULATE MATTER EMISSIONS
WASHINGTON –In a settlement with the United States on behalf of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, automotive electronics manufacturer Edge Products LLC (Edge) has agreed to pay a $500,000 civil penalty for manufacturing and selling electronic devices that allowed owners of model year 2007 and later diesel pickup trucks to remove emission controls from their vehicles. Diesel trucks that are not equipped with emission controls known as “diesel particulate filters” emit excess particulate matter (PM). When running, trucks without these types of controls leave behind a trail of dark, black smoke. PM is associated with a number of health problems, including respiratory and cardiovascular disease, chronic bronchitis, decreased lung function, and an increased risk of lung cancer.
HAHA...It's called a trailer. How do you think Nascar vehicles get to their location.
Well the trailer needs at least a F-350 Super Duty power stroke and a Chevy Silverado 3500HD Duramax diesel or a Dodge Ram 3500 dually with a Cummins I-6 Diesel you would need to be able to tow the Nascar enclosed trailer spare car with al the tools, spare parts and people who also live in the front of the trailer on the road just to have a team and crew to race it.
Well the trailer needs at least a F-350 Super Duty power stroke and a Chevy Silverado 3500HD Duramax diesel or a Dodge Ram 3500 dually with a Cummins I-6 Diesel you would need to be able to tow the Nascar enclosed trailer spare car with al the tools, spare parts and people who also live in the front of the trailer on the road just to have a team and crew to race it.
Or you could buy a Mustang GT500, WRX, or Focus ST, drive yourself to the track, and go have fun. Which a lot of people enjoy doing.
Speeding alone can constitute a crime of reckless driving.
Reckless driving,
Willing putting life and or property at great risk of harm or death.
From Cali.
23103. (a) A person who drives a vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.
Persons convicted of the offense of reckless driving shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than five days nor more than 90 days or by a fine of not less than one hundred forty-five dollars ($145) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, except as provided in Section 23104 or 23105.
How do I know.
I got tagged for going 128mph in a 15mph zone.
the charge, reckless driving.
Thankfully it happened in MN back in the early 70's, no jail time, just a $200 fine and a 90day suspension.
Even a judge in cali is not going to let you off with just a fine for speeding.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Reckless driving is a crime, and not an infraction, and in California must be a combination of 3 offenses or more. Speeding as a singular infraction cannot be considered a crime.
Bottom line: speeding laws are created and designed so that localities can collect revenues. That means that if a stretch of road is designed to handle traffic at 50 MPH, and people drive on it at 50 MPH, the speed limit will be set at 40 MPH. Speeding laws are one of the few laws on the books that are literally made to be broken. Specifically and intentionally: if people followed the speed limit then revenues would drop off sharply, and the speed limits would once again be revised downward to compensate, and continue to make sure enough people violate them to maintain the revenue stream.
That is how the 55mph speed limit came to be. The American people were told in 1974 it was a temporary measure that would only last a year. After the money windfall cities and insurance companies received from all those speeding tickets written for an underposted speed limit, the 55 limit mysteriously hung around.
Speeding alone can constitute a crime of reckless driving.
Reckless driving,
Willing putting life and or property at great risk of harm or death.
From Cali.
23103. (a) A person who drives a vehicle upon a highway in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving.
Persons convicted of the offense of reckless driving shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than five days nor more than 90 days or by a fine of not less than one hundred forty-five dollars ($145) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, except as provided in Section 23104 or 23105.
How do I know.
I got tagged for going 128mph in a 15mph zone.
the charge, reckless driving.
Thankfully it happened in MN back in the early 70's, no jail time, just a $200 fine and a 90day suspension.
Even a judge in cali is not going to let you off with just a fine for speeding.
You were convicted of reckless driving. How many violations are possible when doing 128 mph in a 15 mph zone? This is not an example of simply speeding as you wish it to be. You were in excess of the basic speed law, and endangered the lives of others (the reason it was 15 mph in the first place), and any other choice such as exhibition of speed. Had an officer simply wrote a ticket for cvc 22350 in this case he should have been jailed.
Yes, that's interesting. I've heard of that idea, that the speed a certain percentage feels comfortable at is the safest, that a majority of people will sort of self regulate. I suppose this speed is not an absolute for a given stretch of road but would creep up if limits were raised? I have no beef with raising many speed limits, crossing the Grand Prairie of Illinois at 65mph is ridiculous. 75 or 80 seems a reasonable limit.
The speed limit in Illinois used to be 70 on the very same roads where it is now only 65. Can you say revenue generation?
But it doesn't follow from that that going faster than current limits is safer.
Many of the current speed limits are posted lower than they were in 1973 (pre-55). Why could you legally drive 70 in Illinois in 1973 on the very same roads where the speed limit is only 65 today? So driving faster than the current speed limit is not dangerous because the current speed limit is underposted for revenue generation purposes.
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