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Old 10-18-2013, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I've come close, in my driving years, of this happening. It's night time, few street lights, you make a right turn onto a street/highway, and you didn't see the car coming by because they didn't have their headlights on, you hit the car, and the driver, perhaps, suddenly realizes he didn't have his headlights on, so then he puts them on, waiting for the police to arrive.

Police arrive, and I'm trying to tell the police this driver didn't have his headlights on, and would I have a leg to stand on? Would there be a way of proving, by feeling the heat of the headlights, that that this person had recently turned them on?
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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I suppose it depends on how modern the car is. I wonder if those data boxes record such things.

I think the cop would take your side. With few streetlights and no headlights, the driver is probably inhebrited in some way or another anyways.

Feeling the lights wouldn't do anything. They're hot almost instantly.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:39 AM
 
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Doubtful that you would have a leg to stand on. You could tell the officer and have him question the other driver. The other driver may own up to it when questioned by the officer. If you had a witness, you would have a case. Otherwise, you have headlights on your car for navigating in the dark and should have seen the other vehicle is likely the position.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:20 AM
 
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you have headlights on your car for navigating in the dark and should have seen the other vehicle is likely the position.
Really, you can see objects that aren't in the illumination range of your headlights in the dark?
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:22 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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Last year someone I know made a left turn and hit an oncoming car without headlights on. No streetlights, it was a rural two-lane road.
I'm not sure if the other driver was given a ticket for not using headlights (hopefully he was) but my friend was the one determined to be at fault and charged with the accident.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Last time one of these terrifying incidents happened, it was late at night, in the city, little or no traffic, and I was doing a right exit onto a one-way, 3 lane road, and this car came speeding by at 50? 60? miles per hour, and it didn't help the car was colored black or dark gray.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:15 AM
 
Location: NY
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It's your word against his.

That said, driving without lights is often a tipoff to dwi. Hopefully the cop considers and investigates this.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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Really, you can see objects that aren't in the illumination range of your headlights in the dark?
No but, its's the same thing as hitting a stationary object in the road. Its is your responsible to maintain proper look out, as well as maintaining control of your vehicle at all times.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:23 AM
 
Location: MN
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If the car without headlights is in its own on coming lane or side of the road, why would you ever hit it? Assuming it is, you would be at fault for crossing into its lane and the officer would check if you've been drinking...
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:53 AM
 
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No but, its's the same thing as hitting a stationary object in the road.
Not really, if you hit an abject in the road you're driving on it's likely your headlights will illuminate it at some point before impact. A vehicle coming from your left with your car angled to take a right turn won't be illuminated.
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