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Says who? I find lots of things that are older are made better and last longer then newer stuff. For example older tube TVs I guarantee you won't get 15 years out of a flat screen TV like you would with a tube tv. I have a small 13 inch tube tv from emerson made in 1993 21 years old and still works fine.
Tools- I have tons of craftsman sockets and wrenches from about 1996 still work fine and I use them at least once a month. I have lots of tools still working from the mid 90s. Sockets today that are made in China won't hold up for more then a couple years they will rust or break.
Of course, none of that has to do with the reliability of automobiles.
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Stuff today is made to be replaced not for longevity. Almost everything today is made in other countries with lower quality materials.
Finally my 1997 Chevy Tahoe I expect to get high 300s on the original motor and it's not uncommon for these engines to last in the 400s.
Cars and trucks today are built for fuel economy with lighter and thinner body materials. Some of these cars I'd be afraid to lean on with how much plastic they have in them. Yes it makes things much lighter for better fuel economy but if it gets hit good luck. Look around at the body shop yards you will see pieces of fenders and bumpers piled up. Lots of new cars you don't pull dents because they are fiberglass or molded plastic you just replace the whole piece.
And with the newer cars they are full of sensors and electronics that fail often and cost more to replace.
I love the minimal technology on my truck because it's cheaper and easier to fix.
You'd have to go back farther than 10 years to get beyond the "sensors and electronics that fail" factor. Back to 1975 would just about do it. A 2004 automobile is certainly no more reliable than it's 2014 model descendent.
It's ugly, rusting, many things don't work and are rigged. It is way past having that "tight newer car feel" as everything just feels old when driving this car. I'm so ready for an upgrade.
a car is old, when you go to a grocery store and the cart chaser ask you what type car is that, they have never seen one like that. a car is old when the junkyard don't carry that model any more
Of course, none of that has to do with the reliability of automobiles.
You'd have to go back farther than 10 years to get beyond the "sensors and electronics that fail" factor. Back to 1975 would just about do it. A 2004 automobile is certainly no more reliable than it's 2014 model descendent.
If you read everything I posted I talked about automobiles. Also everyone has their own opinions on what is more reliable and my opinion is newer cars are built to be replaced not to last.
If you read everything I posted I talked about automobiles. Also everyone has their own opinions on what is more reliable and my opinion is newer cars are built to be replaced not to last.
Past about the Model T cars have never been built to "last". In reality today's cars run longer and need fewer repairs/replacements early.
Up until the 1980s, or a bit later, if you got 50K from a car you had worn it out. Tires at 10K, brakes at about the same. Shocks every year. Exhaust systems every two years. Ball joints at 20K, bearings repacked at 15K. And on and on and on.
Past about the Model T cars have never been built to "last". In reality today's cars run longer and need fewer repairs/replacements early.
Up until the 1980s, or a bit later, if you got 50K from a car you had worn it out. Tires at 10K, brakes at about the same. Shocks every year. Exhaust systems every two years. Ball joints at 20K, bearings repacked at 15K. And on and on and on.
Those cars were repairable for as long as you could get parts, at least until the frame rusted through.
But, as I think you're implying, "repairable" is not the same thing as "reliable."
I don't see them worn out at 50,000 quite the opposite actually. Ford had a 100,000 mile warranty on their new 477 and 534 large gas truck v8s in the late 1950s.
I don't see them worn out at 50,000 quite the opposite actually. Ford had a 100,000 mile warranty on their new 477 and 534 large gas truck v8s in the late 1950s.
And it was 12 months/12K miles for most of the rest of the company.
And it was 12 months/12K miles for most of the rest of the company.
If most vehicle makers only made vehicles that were worn out at 50,000 miles before the early 80s then they would have went out of buisness. The first time I replaced the brake pads on my 1979 Ford f250 was at 160,000 miles and it still has the original u joints at close to 200,000 now and its far from worn out.
Past about the Model T cars have never been built to "last". In reality today's cars run longer and need fewer repairs/replacements early.
Up until the 1980s, or a bit later, if you got 50K from a car you had worn it out. Tires at 10K, brakes at about the same. Shocks every year. Exhaust systems every two years. Ball joints at 20K, bearings repacked at 15K. And on and on and on.
I'm not talking about model T's lol I have a 1997 chevy Tahoe I'm talking about cars and truck from the 50s-90s are were built to last. People these days have a throw away mentality and the manufacturers have picked up on that so they don't build things to last.
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