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Old 06-25-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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The first question is why you would drive a vehicle knowing it has those issues?
I would not. A young employee where I work borrowed GrandMa's car and got stopped. There are varying

opinions on this.Opinions seem to be divided by age group. Older employees seem to think it is the driver's problem. Younger folks think GrandMa should pay.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I would not. A young employee where I work borrowed GrandMa's car and got stopped. There are varying

opinions on this.Opinions seem to be divided by age group. Older employees seem to think it is the driver's problem. Younger folks think GrandMa should pay.

But pay for what? The repairs? The registration fees? The court fees?
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes! U knew the papers were wrong when u drove it. Really? Be an Adult. #NEXTTTTT
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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But pay for what? The repairs? The registration fees? The court fees?
The court fees and fines. Suppose the car was impounded for being driven illegally? Driver and Granny both knew?
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Rural Central Texas
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Equal Fault. The lender knew the defect and should not have loaned it out. The driver knew the defect and should not have borrowed it in that condition. Legally, the blame falls on the driver since they are the ones that actually broke the law by operating the vehicle in an illegal state. Morally, the lender is just as wrong.

it is not against the law to own an unregistered or unlicensed vehicle, only illegal to operate it on public roads.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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In the case of any infraction resulting in a fine, the driver should pay for anything that is ticked to the driver, the owner to anything ticketed to the owner. For a fix-it ticket the owner is responsible but I would expect the driver to voluntarily pay it since he knew the risk and borrowed it anyway. If he had not borrowed it there would not have been a ticket. The owner remains responsible for the cost of repairing the equipment issue and/or registration. Common sense should prevent anyone from borrowing a car knowing there is any illegal condition unless it's an emergency.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The court fees and fines. Suppose the car was impounded for being driven illegally? Driver and Granny both knew?
A moving violation? That's on the driver. I thought we were talking about fix-it tickets.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:37 PM
 
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Older employees seem to think it is the driver's problem. Younger folks think GrandMa should pay.
Older folks have brains; these younger folks are scrubs.

Personally, I bet the kid took Gramdma's car without permission, she probably had it parked for a reason.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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Both parties, the owner more so, but the driver should know better.
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Old 06-25-2014, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Both should pay for being equally stupid.
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