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Old 09-24-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Sites like TireRack list country of origin for specific models. Just FYI.

Mike
Lots like Continentals made from a few European countries like Portugal, Romania, and Czech Republic.

Some Hankook and Kumho from China. Didn't see many others.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Like people are pointing out, I also think a lot of tires already come out of Chinese factories.

I've got no problem with Chinese-made tires. They shouldn't suck just because they rolled out of a Chinese factory. My problem is when the corporate brand chooses not to maintain a high level of quality and decide that their name doesn't have to represent quality anymore.

Quality Control is 100% enforceable by American management. They choose how much pressure to exert on their foreign factories and contracted factories. The Chinese contractors will do what they're told to do. American corporate wants to save money on labor and materials but it should be a given that they will have to increase QC vigilance in return.

If there is waste from high QC rejects, the right contract will put the loss on the offshore factory. If the contract is good, then it is up to US leadership to do their job and refuse to accept garbage. Roll up those sleeves and either fix that offshore factory or else cut the bad factory from the supply chain.

So when we get cheap Chinese crap with an American label on it, more often than not you can thank some overpaid American "leadership" for it. It's completely within Corporate HQs control.
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Old 09-24-2014, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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A random look at this "American" name brand tire http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....lar=Crew%20Cab shows it is made in about 5 different countries like Indonesia, Costa Rica, Mexico and China.

Is nothing sacred anymore ? When, do you suppose, will Jack Daniels open a distillery in China(if they haven't already ?)
Looks like they are priced the same regardless of where they are made. I never looked at this information. I went by brand names I have known all my life. Never heard or seen of any of the Chinese brands mentioned here.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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Very few companies still make tires in the USA. Cooper, Michelin, Firestone are some off the top of my head still made in USA. Cooper almost was sold to a large India company in 2011 i believe but the deal fell through.

I would never buy a tire made in India or China or anywhere else besides the USA. The only place if I was forced to buy outside of the US would be Germany. I don't know if Germany makes tires but pretty much everything else they make is made very well so i would buy tires.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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Given that the episode with Ford Explorers and Firestone lasted for some nine years, don't be surprised at my lack of faith when it comes to quality control procedures for either imported or domestic tires.
I'm not worried about this. I remember back in the 70s and 80s, the quality of tires (which I assume were American at the time) was noticeably poorer than what we've got nowadays. Back then, you could expect tires to blow out with some frequency and when they did you noticed it immediately. Nowadays, if a tire goes flat I don't hardly notice it. Additionally, it seems that repairing flats is much more reliable and longer lasting these days.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Like people are pointing out, I also think a lot of tires already come out of Chinese factories.

I've got no problem with Chinese-made tires. They shouldn't suck just because they rolled out of a Chinese factory. My problem is when the corporate brand chooses not to maintain a high level of quality and decide that their name doesn't have to represent quality anymore.

Quality Control is 100% enforceable by American management. They choose how much pressure to exert on their foreign factories and contracted factories. The Chinese contractors will do what they're told to do. American corporate wants to save money on labor and materials but it should be a given that they will have to increase QC vigilance in return.

If there is waste from high QC rejects, the right contract will put the loss on the offshore factory. If the contract is good, then it is up to US leadership to do their job and refuse to accept garbage. Roll up those sleeves and either fix that offshore factory or else cut the bad factory from the supply chain.

So when we get cheap Chinese crap with an American label on it, more often than not you can thank some overpaid American "leadership" for it. It's completely within Corporate HQs control.
Exactly.

No qualms buying a Bridgestone tire that is made in China. They've been making them for decades there and my personal experience was good. Now, I probably wouldn't buy a Chinese brand tire as of now. They've got a reputation for being horrible.

Tire Test: Nine Affordable Summer Tires Take On the Michelin PS2 Comparison Tests - Page 3 - Car and Driver

On the other hand, reputable companies make tires in China and they're perfectly fine:
With Chinese tires, it's buyer beware - Business - Autos | NBC News

"They included tires from brands such as Toyo, Cooper, Pirelli, and Kumho. “Because these tires are being built with the companies whose names are on the tires, the same specifications that would apply to a tire made in the U.S. would apply to a tire made in China,” said Petersen."
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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I'm on my 2nd set of LT tires on my Ford e-350. The van came with a fairly new set and I replaced them in pairs as needed.

I have to say not a bad looking tire and they wear very well, and handle pretty good.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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I am coming across articles about Chinese tires. Are we going to be riding on Chinese tires anytime soon? Are some of the tires we already have actually made in China but we don't know about it?


Chinese tires are already being used in the country. All those tire specials you see at tire stores most likely made in China
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Looks like people make a distinction between Chinese brand tires and name brand tires that are made in China. I would avoid both if I can find out.
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Old 09-24-2014, 11:57 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Yes, Chinese tires are already here. ... be more concerned about the ones on that big rig behind you.
yup.. tough to find a semi tire that is not Chinese (in spite of 60% tariff into USA).

Maybe because the the Federal tax alone was over $200 EACH on the last set of 22 tires I bought.

Just had a local 16 yr old killed when a cement truck blew a front tire and crossed the center line. So lookout for approaching vehicles also!
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