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Old 11-17-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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There is no replacement for displacement!
There is, its called forced induction but that's not what anyone is arguing anyway so you sound like that senile old man that yells something vaguely coherent at a group of people without provocation as they proceed to brush off the crazy and go about their business.
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Old Man Yells At Technology
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Old Man Yells At Technology
Haha right? I instantly got an image of an old man standing in the snow, toothless, shacking his wrist in the air.
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Old 11-17-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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Plenty of good information in this thread already. I'll add that despite Turbo's inherent power advantage, particularly at high RPM, many manufacturers (and people in the aftermarket) go the supercharger route due to cost and simplicity. Not just over the unit itself, but the entire system and motor. Turbo chargers spin faster, and in most cases require significantly more heat management than superchargers. Year ago, it was recommended that Turbo motors were run at idle for a bit before shutdown due to heat and reliability. Happily, those days are gone, and modern turbo (and supercharger) units and their surrounding systems are generally very reliable and don't require anything extra of the driver/owner.

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Old 11-17-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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There is no replacement for displacement!
yes there is, its called rectangular dollars.
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Volkswagen has gone one step closer to giving us the perfect "have your cake and eat it too" motor. The automaker recently unveiled their new super advanced performance diesel engine in Wolfsburg. You'll want this diesel, you'll want it bad.

According to AutoExpress, VW has adapted the existing EA288 power-plant. In the Europe-only Passat, the TDI produces 237 hp and 368 ft/lbs and will get about 50 mpg highway (in Europe). Volkswagen has big plans for this new motor and is even considering dropping it into their new 7-seat crossover. In order for it to handle such a large application Volkswagen has added an electric turbo charger which increases the output to 268hp, this is more power than the 3.0 TDI V6 found in the European Toaureg. VW's New Electroturbodiesel Motor Makes 268 HP, Could Deliver 60 MPG
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Old Man Yells At Technology
The so called “technology” is 100 years old so don’t feel too hip. The first passenger car with a turbocharger appeared in 1962. What he is saying is essentially correct. There is no quicker, more straightforward, more refined way of generating more power than adding displacement. How many 7-series or S-Class models do you see with a 2 liter turbocharged engines? None, and why is that?
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Old 11-17-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The so called “technology” is 100 years old so don’t feel too hip. The first passenger car with a turbocharger appeared in 1962. What he is saying is essentially correct. There is no quicker, more straightforward, more refined way of generating more power than adding displacement. How many 7-series or S-Class models do you see with a 2 liter turbocharged engines? None, and why is that?
Because their engines are bigger. And still turbocharged.
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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.....but the supercharger makes your engine look cool.

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Old 11-17-2014, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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So turbocharging wasn’t enough. They still needed displacement. Old man wins.
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