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At first I thought this might be a joke, but sadly it isn't. I didn't realize (or maybe I didn't want to admit that we had reached that level of stupidity) that there were people THAT stupid out there.
I wouldn't necessarily stay stupid. Cars these days are quite good in terms of quiet/smooth operation so for someone who is driving a keyless car for the first time it may not be obvious that the car is still on (of course for most of us on these forums we'd know just by looking at the tachometer or dash lights). With old school key'd ignitions pulling out the key becomes a programmed action and I couldn't get into my house without my car keys (which won't come out until the car is off). Once you get a keyless car which results in a fairly significant behavioral change, I can see this causing issues. I never left my car keys in my old cars but I've left the keyless FOB in the car a few times simply because I no longer have to think about it as it's not directly involved in the ignition action. I'm not saying people should get any damages from this, at most a sign or label installed in new cars.
With old school key'd ignitions pulling out the key becomes a programmed action .
It's still a programmed action though. I got myself a car with keyless ignition and to this day, anytime I step out of the car, the first instinct is to reach and turn off the engine. I sometime have to stop myself from doing that if I get out to get something from back seat and such.
I would disagree. To blindly assume that the car will shut itself off when you walk away from it clearly indicates a flawed thought process. It doesn't start by itself when you approach, why would one think that it would shut off when you walk away?
It's still a programmed action though. I got myself a car with keyless ignition and to this day, anytime I step out of the car, the first instinct is to reach and turn off the engine.
Exactly. I've had BP start since 2011 (after driving since 1985 with keys), I would have to make a conscious effort to NOT turn off the car when I exit.
I didn't realize (or maybe I didn't want to admit that we had reached that level of stupidity) that there were people THAT stupid out there.
I didn't realize that there are so many people who are too stupid to learn how to work a key, and have a car with a remote-controlled motor to turn a switch on.
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Originally Posted by NHDave
why would one think that it would shut off when you walk away?
Umm -- because the lights do? Everybody has to learn to keep a mental inventory of everything that shuts off and everything that doesn't, which can vary from car to car. And yes, there are people who are that stupid out there.
And, you can put a device in your car that will start the engine every morning at 6:45, so it won't feeze your little hiney on winter mornings.
I didn't realize that there are so many people who are too stupid to learn how to work a key, and have a car with a remote-controlled motor to turn a switch on.
Good attempt, but fail. You do realize that even cars with keys still have a "remote-controlled motor" to turn a switch on? If not, now you do
Regardless, it's the auto manufactures that have moved in this direction, not the consumer. The car I bought in 2011 did not have an option other than PBS.
I bought a 2014 Honda and went through a mini school on how to operate my new Honda by the salesman. I was shown how to start and stop the engine which included stepping on the brake prior to pressing the start/stop button and then pressing the start/stop button to stop the engine. I was also informed that the engine would not stop itself otherwise, that the key fob is there to recognize the owner only for starting the engine and not stopping it.
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