High mileage Sequoia/4Runner or new Mazda CX-9/Kia Sorento?

[skinsguy37]

Originally Posted by bmwguydc

I prefer the Land Cruiser/Lexus LX to the Sequoia, though the older Lc's with a third row sat 7 because of the folding seat configuration. So, if you need to seat 8, the Sequoia or a Suburban/Yukon/Escalade would make more sense.

Buying new, you have a warranty and know the maintenance. How long do you plan to keep the vehicle? With over 100k in many jurisdictions, you have limited recourse when dealing with a dealer, should there be a problem with the car that was undisclosed, and it can be difficult to prove fraud. With a private seller, the car is as-is, which would give me pause on the Sequoia if you do not know the seller. Have a thorough PpI before making an offer on the car and try to get it at the lowest possible price of you go the Sequoia route.

Toyota's V8 engines are not terribly thrifty, so the Mazda gets points for fuel economy, but Toyota's V8 engines are also robust and generally perform very well for many years, with proper maintenance. Mazda also has new safety and convenience features that may not be available on the Sequoia. And, do you need an off-road capable 4WD system or would Mazda's AWD be sufficient?

That's why you don't deal with dealers when a car isn't under warranty. You find a good certified mechanic to take your Sequoia to. Personally, even if I had the money, I wouldn't spend over $60k on a brand new vehicle just so I can watch it depreciate down to half that much within three years. Sequoias, Tacomas, Tundras, 4Runners, etc...there are much better deals to be had by buying those vehicles used.

[Shaolin Shadowboxing]

Originally Posted by skinsguy37

That's why you don't deal with dealers when a car isn't under warranty. You find a good certified mechanic to take your Sequoia to. Personally, even if I had the money, I wouldn't spend over $60k on a brand new vehicle just so I can watch it depreciate down to half that much within three years. Sequoias, Tacomas, Tundras, 4Runners, etc...there are much better deals to be had by buying those vehicles used.

are you saying to avoid dealers when buying a used car? or avoid them for service?

[bmwguydc]

Originally Posted by skinsguy37

That's why you don't deal with dealers when a car isn't under warranty. You find a good certified mechanic to take your Sequoia to. Personally, even if I had the money, I wouldn't spend over $60k on a brand new vehicle just so I can watch it depreciate down to half that much within three years. Sequoias, Tacomas, Tundras, 4Runners, etc...there are much better deals to be had by buying those vehicles used.

I tend not to use the dealer for my vehicles, unless service is included with the purchase price, as I have specialists whom I trust far more than a dealer's service department.

I wasn't referring to service, but limitations on liability when purchasing a used vehicle that has over 100k miles or is over a certain number of years old from a dealer, whereby if there is an undisclosed issue, you are basically out of luck in many jurisdictions, unless you can prove fraud, something that is not easy to do, and would likely cost in excess of the redress of the automotive issue in legal fees. Regardless as to where it is serviced, paying a dealer premium offers less protection than with a newer/lower mileage vehicle, as some tend to avoid private party sales, believing the dealer to provide a degree of consumer protection and/or a vehicle that is better inspected/serviced, which is not the case when it reaches a certain age/mileage as there are fewer protections and you are paying a dealer premium for an "as-is" vehicle, the same as a private party which you can usually get for less.