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Old 10-23-2015, 08:31 AM
 
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"It shall be unlawful for any person to access, without authorization, an electronic control unit or critical system of a motor vehicle, or other system containing driving data for such motor vehicle, either wirelessly or through a wired connection."

As the article states it would also make it illegal for researchers to look for bugs, unless they are authorized to do so.

It also looks like it would also end up being illegal to do any tuning on your car depending on what "system containing driving data" means.
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Old 10-23-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...all-less-safe/

"It shall be unlawful for any person to access, without authorization, an electronic control unit or critical system of a motor vehicle, or other system containing driving data for such motor vehicle, either wirelessly or through a wired connection."

As the article states it would also make it illegal for researchers to look for bugs, unless they are authorized to do so.

It also looks like it would also end up being illegal to do any tuning on your car depending on what "system containing driving data" means.
You mean like this?

Carmakers Want To Use Copyright Law To Make Working On Your Car Illegal

Auto manufacturers sure are desperate to make your car NOT yours anymore...

I wonder if it's actually a "first step" to abolish private vehicle ownership? Here are a couple coinciding trends...



The much discussed lack of interest Millennials supposedly have in cars... really more like telling millennials what they should/shouldn't like repeatedly until they believe it.

With self-driving cars soon to be unleashed on the world, it would be insanely convenient to rent or do some kind of rideshare instead of owning your own vehicle... call in a rental request and the car drives itself straight to your door, then leaves after it takes you where to go. Also, you could get whatever kind of auto you needed for what you are doing... need to move a sofa? Rent a truck. Take a bunch of kids to a birthday part? request a passenger van. Hot date? how about a 2 seat convertible?

If the price is right, I think the number of private vehicles will drop substantially just because of that.

A road system that required all vehicles to be online and under central control would be very efficient and quick transportation. Traffic accidents would be rare events and traffic jams might even be substantially mitigated or disappear altogether. The technology now exists to do it as well.

There has been a shift in thinking about autos in general, from being passionate about them to thinking of them as mere appliances.

Prices are being driven sky-high, slowly making it impossible for "rank and file" members of society to even consider buying a new car and pushing up prices on used cars.

As for making it illegal to tamper with your vehicle, that could serve to reinforce and get you used to the idea that your car isn't "yours", not to mention that messing with the systems of a self-driving car would be very problematic.

It's easy to imagine a near-future world where no one but the super-rich own private vehicles authorized for road use, where "classic cars" (i.e. manual drive cars) are banned from street use and we all get around with public transportation and/or getting a membership from a car "club" which would deliver self-driving cars (that you cannot directly control) to your door for a monthly or more likely per mile fee...

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Old 10-23-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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Yeah, but that one was dreamed up by the auto manufacturers, this one's from our ever vigilant[/S] government.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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regardless of who is making these types of laws, it makes me real happy to still be driving my vintage 82 fairmont where the only computer is in the aftermarket stereo.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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regardless of who is making these types of laws, it makes me real happy to still be driving my vintage 82 fairmont where the only computer is in the aftermarket stereo.
I'd argue that but I've got nothing...
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: mancos
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My cars are so old they don't even have airbags.Once I had a passenger side airbag but she divorced me.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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SEMA would be all over that, using current legislation about fair trade and the ability of the aftermarket to manufacture parts to shut it down if it were to become a full fledged bill (which it's not now). I wouldn't worry too much about the current language in it.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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SEMA would be all over that, using current legislation about fair trade and the ability of the aftermarket to manufacture parts to shut it down if it were to become a full fledged bill (which it's not now). I wouldn't worry too much about the current language in it.
Yeah, but it's the government we're talking about, they aren't the brightest bulb in the dashboard.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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My cars are so old they don't even have airbags.Once I had a passenger side airbag but she divorced me.
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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"It shall be unlawful for any person to access, without authorization, an electronic control unit or critical system of a motor vehicle, or other system containing driving data for such motor vehicle, either wirelessly or through a wired connection.".

So that means hooking up an OBD2 scanner would be illegal?
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