Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:46 PM
 
19,040 posts, read 27,607,234 times
Reputation: 20278

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Hauler View Post
Not sure about Russian law but here in the US no one can simply liquidate someone's assets on the side of the road for some unrelated debt. Cars are repoed because they are directly tied to debt through lien or some other agreement.
Yep, that's why that is not US. They just started taking a swing on all kinds of swindlers. Previous week Monday they jailed a guy who ran a business that moved out of Russia 50 BILLION dollars. He's considered to have caused damage close to 1 trillion rubles.
They are cracking corruption more and more.
Like I said - it ain't no Kansas, boys and girls.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-14-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
22,146 posts, read 33,544,925 times
Reputation: 35437
Quote:
Originally Posted by ukrkoz View Post
They do. No worries. It's Mother Russia.
lol yeah they aren't known for a gentle kind kid gloves treatment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2015, 08:10 AM
 
19,040 posts, read 27,607,234 times
Reputation: 20278
No, they do not, and should not, have sissy LAW scared of lawyers and "groups" of all flavors. Law should be this way: dura lex, sed lex. Law is harsh, but it's a law.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2015, 09:14 AM
 
17,314 posts, read 22,056,580 times
Reputation: 29678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Electrician4you View Post
lol yeah they aren't known for a gentle kind kid gloves treatment.
Seems like just another reason NOT to pull over!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
42,554 posts, read 86,992,173 times
Reputation: 36644
Much to the delight of the west, Russia switched over 25 years ago to a system in which the power of law is vested in large corporations, who own the debts of people who suddenly became borrowers. This is how that works.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-15-2015, 05:17 PM
 
4,690 posts, read 10,422,074 times
Reputation: 14887
Er, it does happen in the US already... there need be nothing more than a LEO wanting to do it:

Police Can Seize And Sell Assets Even When The Owner Broke No Law : The Two-Way : NPR

They don't normally bother with anything other than cash, but there's nothing Stopping them. With the public businesses who scan plates and sell that info the law enforcement, we're only one Very Small step away from having LEOs paid by collection agencies to collect things they can use to settle debts. Collect a car with a loan? Cash out what's available (if nothing, turn it over to the lien holder).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-16-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: U.S.A.
3,306 posts, read 12,224,222 times
Reputation: 2966
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_M View Post
Er, it does happen in the US already... there need be nothing more than a LEO wanting to do it:

Police Can Seize And Sell Assets Even When The Owner Broke No Law : The Two-Way : NPR

They don't normally bother with anything other than cash, but there's nothing Stopping them. With the public businesses who scan plates and sell that info the law enforcement, we're only one Very Small step away from having LEOs paid by collection agencies to collect things they can use to settle debts. Collect a car with a loan? Cash out what's available (if nothing, turn it over to the lien holder).
Although a bit different than instant roadside liquidation due to debt, this is a more serious problem, though does not seem to be very prevalent. There are more than a few documentaries/investigative reports on youtube demonstrating this. Racial profiling seems to play a big part and many of the victims I have seen documented were suspected illegal aliens in southern states.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-16-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
44,585 posts, read 81,206,701 times
Reputation: 57821
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_M View Post
Er, it does happen in the US already... there need be nothing more than a LEO wanting to do it:

Police Can Seize And Sell Assets Even When The Owner Broke No Law : The Two-Way : NPR

They don't normally bother with anything other than cash, but there's nothing Stopping them. With the public businesses who scan plates and sell that info the law enforcement, we're only one Very Small step away from having LEOs paid by collection agencies to collect things they can use to settle debts. Collect a car with a loan? Cash out what's available (if nothing, turn it over to the lien holder).
And people would be amazed to find out how many cameras there are reading their license plates as they pass by on their daily routine. If someone wants to find you badly enough, they can. In most cases it's used to find people with outstanding warrants.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-16-2015, 02:13 PM
 
19,040 posts, read 27,607,234 times
Reputation: 20278
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
Much to the delight of the west, Russia switched over 25 years ago to a system in which the power of law is vested in large corporations, who own the debts of people who suddenly became borrowers. This is how that works.
Which they took after a great example of the most developed country in the world. Russians have saying: durnoy primer zarazitelen. Bad example is contagious.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-16-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
2,990 posts, read 8,713,690 times
Reputation: 1516
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_M View Post
Er, it does happen in the US already... there need be nothing more than a LEO wanting to do it:

Police Can Seize And Sell Assets Even When The Owner Broke No Law : The Two-Way : NPR

They don't normally bother with anything other than cash, but there's nothing Stopping them. With the public businesses who scan plates and sell that info the law enforcement, we're only one Very Small step away from having LEOs paid by collection agencies to collect things they can use to settle debts. Collect a car with a loan? Cash out what's available (if nothing, turn it over to the lien holder).
The way car loans are now, most new cars that leave the car lots have no equity. What good that that do when the car has no equity and you give it back to the lien holder? What are they going to do with the car? Probably just give it back to the person who had it originally so they can keep paying on the loan as normal. If they wholesale the car they will even loose more money.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:25 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top