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Old 10-19-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I have seen plenty of the reflective tape dividers that didn't work at all.
Me too. I was driving from Ohio to Florida and on I-95 South in Georgia some of the lane markings were hard to see. Which is why I made this thread.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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I don't know if Virginia changed the type or the formula of the paint they use but I've noticed in recent years that the lane markings are difficult to see when the roads are wet even during the day and especially at night. They are almost non-reflective at all. Even roads that are freshly painted.

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a) Why aren't you using your headlights?
I do use my headlights. Mostly low beam since I do a lot of city driving.

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b) You shouldn't be driving the lines, but driving the road
When the road is 3 or 4 lanes wide plus turn, exit, and merge lanes those lane markings are super helpful.

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c) What's wrong with the current paint/glass bead reflectivity?
Lane markings are nearly impossible to see in wet conditions, at least on Virginia's roads.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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The lane markings get harder to see when concrete pavement is used (many parts of VA use concrete pavement). Many places are now using black paint along with the striping to make them more noticeable.


Southern states have a hard time with the sun bleaching out the pavement markings rather quickly.


The current paint/beads does well as long as they are regularly maintained. Unfortunately, with the recession, many cities, counties and states are still trying to play catch up on maintenance. Striping is probably being held off because plans are now in the works for pavement maintenance (milling or replacement).


We CAN do better. And we should - it's all about safety.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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It's more cost effective to repaint when needed and add highly reflective pigment or reflectors
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The lane markings get harder to see when concrete pavement is used (many parts of VA use concrete pavement). Many places are now using black paint along with the striping to make them more noticeable.


Southern states have a hard time with the sun bleaching out the pavement markings rather quickly.


The current paint/beads does well as long as they are regularly maintained. Unfortunately, with the recession, many cities, counties and states are still trying to play catch up on maintenance. Striping is probably being held off because plans are now in the works for pavement maintenance (milling or replacement).


We CAN do better. And we should - it's all about safety.
I agree.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Can we also just heat the highways to while we're at it? Imagine all the salt we could save...
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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Can we also just heat the highways to while we're at it? Imagine all the salt we could save...


LOL...I remember reading a story once about a place that ran sanitary sewer lines (I believe they were force mains) under roadways and somehow used the ambient heat from those to help melt snow. It was interesting, but I'm not completely sold on it's effectiveness.


Edit: check this out: http://www.oit.edu/docs/default-sour...4.pdf?sfvrsn=4


Not sure how viable an option this is for a majority of roadways, but still interesting!
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Can we also just heat the highways to while we're at it? Imagine all the salt we could save...
They probably could, I'm sure there is some technology out there to do it. We need to start doing things differently, we cant be doing the same thing since the 1960's.

New materials, new ideas, creativity etc
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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LOL...I remember reading a story once about a place that ran sanitary sewer lines (I believe they were force mains) under roadways and somehow used the ambient heat from those to help melt snow. It was interesting, but I'm not completely sold on it's effectiveness.


Edit: check this out: http://www.oit.edu/docs/default-sour...4.pdf?sfvrsn=4


Not sure how viable an option this is for a majority of roadways, but still interesting!


That was a good read. Thanks for the link.
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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The last time I saw lines being PAINTED was in a parking lot.

All the streets around here use white or yellows rolls of material. They roll it out and hit with a torch to bond it to the asphalt or concrete and it lasts for many years longer than paint does.

I believe the stuff they use is reflectorized, but as it ages and gets dirty that diminishes.
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