Self Driving Car Runs Over and Kills Pedestrian (driving record, vehicle, truck)

[markg91359]

The car was in self-driving mode when it happened.

Self driving cars are going to come and there is no stopping that from happening.

However, we are crazy if we don't demand that before these cars are allowed to become anything more than experimental that they be tightly regulated. We should have data showing these vehicles are at 3X safer than ordinary cars before they are allowed to become commercially available. The data doesn't exist? The cars do not move beyond the experimental stage until it does.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...csp=chromepush

[Listener2307]

An Uber car in autonomous mode killed a pedestrian in Tempe. Uber is cancelling self driving programs while the investigation is under way.

Actually, an operator was in the car and behind the wheel, so the whole concept of self driving vehicle does not really apply yet.

Personally, I think self driving cars will have very limited application. I don't think self driving trucks on public highways will ever happen.
https://www.axios.com/uber-self-driv...e2dc118e9.html

[markg91359]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

An Uber car in autonomous mode killed a pedestrian in Tempe. Uber is cancelling self driving programs while the investigation is under way.

Actually, an operator was in the car and behind the wheel, so the whole concept of self driving vehicle does not really apply yet.

Personally, I think self driving cars will have very limited application. I don't think self driving trucks on public highways will ever happen.
https://www.axios.com/uber-self-driv...e2dc118e9.html

I think they are going to happen because of economic pressures. The idea of eliminating over 1,000,000 truck driving jobs is probably very appealing to trucking companies.

Arizona, where this happened, apparently even allows these cars on the road without a "safety driver" in the seat if something goes wrong. I can't believe people in Arizona are that dumb to allow that. The safety driver rule should be an absolute rule with these experimental cars.

[notnamed]

Autonomous cars still have a better driving record than humans. Will they eliminate accidents entirely? Of course not. But should efforts be stopped because accidents still occur, even if at a reduced rate? Of course not.

[BeerGeek40]

Originally Posted by notnamed

Autonomous cars still have a better driving record than humans. Will they eliminate accidents entirely? Of course not. But should efforts be stopped because accidents still occur, even if at a reduced rate? Of course not.

Tell that to the poor soul who just got killed.

[Southern man]

And airbags were going to be ultra reliable. The Takata fiasco has only killed a few people. The size of that problem makes me question if we should have airbags.

[headingtoDenver]

Originally Posted by BeerGeek40

Tell that to the poor soul who just got killed.

Who obviously decided to cross the street outside of a crosswalk and without looking to see if there were any oncoming cars.

[Stockyman]

Basically even though it's labelled self-driving those dreams of napping during long distance might be just a dream.

[duster1979]

Originally Posted by notnamed

Autonomous cars still have a better driving record than humans.

Incorrect. The sample size is nowhere near large enough to make this determination.

[notnamed]

Originally Posted by duster1979

Incorrect. The sample size is nowhere near large enough to make this determination.

They've racked up over 10 million miles combined now. Average human driver record over 10 million miles is worse.