What's the difference between a Corvair and a Tesla? (vehicles, auto, convertible)
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The Tesla "crashes" are human cause. Drivers were still supposed to be actively monitoring their driving, but in all the crashes, the driver wasn't paying attention to what was going on around them. The only fault that can be placed on Tesla is marketing these vehicles to an audience that is so engaged in their electronic devices that you're lucky they are not using VR glasses while gaming when behind the wheel. As much as we would like to blame this on Tesla, they created a device that is being used wrong by the idiot drivers. Now I do fault Tesla for not removing the option as clearly their users are too stupid to use it correctly.
The Corvair was never banned, merely dropped by GM.
Oh, ok, so GM woke up one day and decided to drop the Corvair. No, Ralph Nader killed the Corvair. There are no Ralph Naders on the Tesla's case. Blaming the driver is the popular pass time for auto makers. Remember drivers with big feet driving Audis?
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Oh, ok, so GM woke up one day and decided to drop the Corvair. No, Ralph Nader killed the Corvair. There are no Ralph Naders on the Tesla's case. Blaming the driver is the popular pass time for auto makers. Remember drivers with big feet driving Audis?
As blaming the car was popular with Nader, accurate or not. I never put much stock in his book given he did things like give credence to LEO's reports of accidents as engineering assessments. Granted they taught about trailing throttle oversteer but so did the Porsches of the time.
Though never banned I agree with your assessment in the OP that it was trashed under the "flimsiest of the pretenses". Who knows? Had it been marketed as a sports car rather than an econo-car it may have had a longer life. IMO the second generation stills looks fairly contemporary today.
Chevy Corvair and Ford Pinto were corporate cover-ups: both companies had internal evidence of design and safety flaws but chose to cover up instead of fix. Tesla isn't covering up, they are actively working on improving their products. That's the difference.
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Chevy Corvair and Ford Pinto were corporate cover-ups: both companies had internal evidence of design and safety flaws but chose to cover up instead of fix. Tesla isn't covering up, they are actively working on improving their products. That's the difference.
Such as? I know one of the problems Nader alleged to be a problem was the oversteer that resulted from not maintaining the large pressure differential between front and rear tires specified in the owner's manual.
There's a common bit of advice in the car business: RTFM, Read The F-in' Manual. It's amazing how many alleged problems that little piece of can solve.
Chevy Corvair and Ford Pinto were corporate cover-ups: both companies had internal evidence of design and safety flaws but chose to cover up instead of fix. ......
Baloney!! Chevrolet constantly improved the 1st generation Corvair's rear swing-arm suspension. The 2nd generation Corvairs has a completely new rear suspension.
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