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Old 06-10-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: London
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How do you think people will power their lawnmowers, boats, atvs, generators, etc?
Batteries. They are available.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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Depends on what you grew up with, people my age who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s have fond memories of Japanese cars of that era, so they will be the enthusiast.
1970s Datsun coupes are highly prised in the USA. They were not imported into the UK with too much local competition.
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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1970s Datsun coupes are highly prised in the USA. They were not imported into the UK with too much local competition.
Maybe in California but not here in Michigan, so you can’t say they were highly desirable everywhere in the USA. Unlike classic muscle cars are desirable all around the country including Europe. They love the sound of a good ole American V8 in Europe just like they love American Harley Davison and American Levi’s.
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Old 06-10-2018, 12:08 PM
 
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Those are classic cars in Europe but these are classics cars in America
Classics are international. Beauty, quality, speed, handling – these adjectives aren’t limited to one or another language, nation, epoch or tribe.

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1970s Datsun coupes are highly prised in the USA. They were not imported into the UK with too much local competition.
I still have my 1972 Datsun Z. But in a maneuver that is likely to offend partisans of both sides of the debate, that Datsun has a big-block Chevy V8; 461 cubic inches (after overbore) and a big 4-barrel on top. Classic, or sacrilege? Domestic, or foreign?
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Classics are international. Beauty, quality, speed, handling – these adjectives aren’t limited to one or another language, nation, epoch or tribe.



I still have my 1972 Datsun Z. But in a maneuver that is likely to offend partisans of both sides of the debate, that Datsun has a big-block Chevy V8; 461 cubic inches (after overbore) and a big 4-barrel on top. Classic, or sacrilege? Domestic, or foreign?
So it’s heart is a American V8 muscle car engine not the rice burner that came with the car. And the era i grew up in and the state and city i lived in muscle cars are the classic cars i grew up with.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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I still have my 1972 Datsun Z. But in a maneuver that is likely to offend partisans of both sides of the debate, that Datsun has a big-block Chevy V8; 461 cubic inches (after overbore) and a big 4-barrel on top. Classic, or sacrilege? Domestic, or foreign?
Oh no. I read that some put those V-8s in Jaguars. That is a one philistine act for sure.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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I saw this yesterday, a 1964 Aston Martin DB5, at the local filling station. He left the filler lid open. I had to shout to him to close it.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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The American automakers don’t have to resort to restoring their old vehicles because they sell far more vehicles than jaguar could ever expect to, so they don’t need the money unlike jaguar dose. Gm sells over 198,000 vehicles compared to jaguar/ Land Rover 9,000 a year.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Oh no. I read that some put those V-8s in Jaguars. That is a one philistine act for sure.
One hears the same from fans of Japanese cars, who regard "American iron" as a degrading profanation of a fine machine.

As it happens, sometimes the route of the philistine is the more robust and effective. The shepherd-boy with the sling doesn't always slay his opponent. American industry did manage to produce many fine vehicles, and in particular, mastered the engineering of engines with large displacement, good displacement-to-weight ratio, and reasonably good reliability. British industry had some beautiful lines... vehicles that were spirited and balanced. But I can't commend for example Lucas electronics.

This tribal bickering is very unfortunate. In a time when the buying-public regards cars as mere appliances, when there's an overall anti-car movement afoot, we enthusiasts (of all stripes) need to stick together.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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1970s Datsun coupes are highly prised in the USA. They were not imported into the UK with too much local competition.
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Maybe in California but not here in Michigan, so you can’t say they were highly desirable everywhere in the USA. Unlike classic muscle cars are desirable all around the country including Europe. They love the sound of a good ole American V8 in Europe just like they love American Harley Davison and American Levi’s.
John's right about Datsun. My college roommate in the 70s had a brand-new copper 240Z that was the envy of our entire dormitory. Just because something wasn't prized in Detroit, doesn't mean that it wasn't popular in the rest of the U.S. I'm quite sure that no foreign automobile would have been prized in the home of the Big 3.

Especially in the 1970s.
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