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Hey everyone, i have been looking at getting a fun car that's fast and fun that my wife and i can get into and drive any where we want. In the past i have always owned muscle cars that were not all that reliable to drive any far distances( huge cams, high stall convertors, 4.11's etc.) We have been looking at the 2002 camaro ss or the 2002-2004 cobra. Any of you have any experiance in either one of these? I want seat of the pants exceleration, and cornering abilities. I also like the supercharger idea of the cobra, but like the body of the camaro. Anyone know the horsepower ratings of these two cars, maybe 1/4 mile times etc...? Any info would be great.
I've never owned a Camaro or T/A but I have driven both. The two I drove were 6 speeds, one was a 2000 model Trans AM and the other a 2002 Z28.
In my opinion very crisp acceleration, you will enjoy the smoothness of a roller cam in an aluminum block and fuel injection. It's one of the reasons why hot rodders are starting to put LS1 engines into everything and anything from 69 Camaros to you name it.
Stock the LS1 Camaro ran about a 13.4 or so. It is possible with some minor mods/tuning/slicks to get them down in the 12's but the biggest drawback is GM cheaped out on the rear end....they used the same lame crappy rear end from the S-10's in the Camaro, and you can break one if you're not careful. The stock clutch also left a lot to be desired on the table.
Of course if you still want a supercharged Camaro there are places that make them specifically for the LS1 Camaro.
Can't say about the Mustang, but I hear the 2003-2004 Cobra which is supercharged was putting down 300 + Hp and could easily keep up with the LS1 Camaro. Other than that most of them seem to have the 4.6 that has more bark to it than bite, this according to some of the Mustang owners I've talked with.
Now if you really want to be different, another car that might tickle your fancy would be the 1986-1987 turbocharged Buick Regals, such as the Grand National, the T-type and the Turbo T. Unlike the Camaro and Mustang (which are both unibodies) the 86-87 turbo Buicks were full framed cars that were turbocharged, intercooled and fuel injected.
In addition to that the turbo Buicks used a sturdy 8.5 rear end and they were outfitted with all sorts of luxury options. All were equipped with the 200-4R auto overdrive tranny which has been known to stand up to 10 second 1/4 mile cars. Performance wise they ran low 14's stock (235-245 hp) but if you turn up the boost and run good quality gasoline you can run 12's on pretty much stock stuff. And you can still managed to squeeze out 17-19 mpg city/23-26 highway.
The Grand National was the all black car and the T-type (1986) and Turbo T (1987) were the same car except they could come in any color besides black and they were viewed as "sleepers" and not as worth as much as the Grand National, despite being more rare and having lower production numbers.
I've never owned a Camaro or T/A but I have driven both. The two I drove were 6 speeds, one was a 2000 model Trans AM and the other a 2002 Z28.
In my opinion very crisp acceleration, you will enjoy the smoothness of a roller cam in an aluminum block and fuel injection. It's one of the reasons why hot rodders are starting to put LS1 engines into everything and anything from 69 Camaros to you name it.
Stock the LS1 Camaro ran about a 13.4 or so. It is possible with some minor mods/tuning/slicks to get them down in the 12's but the biggest drawback is GM cheaped out on the rear end....they used the same lame crappy rear end from the S-10's in the Camaro, and you can break one if you're not careful. The stock clutch also left a lot to be desired on the table.
Of course if you still want a supercharged Camaro there are places that make them specifically for the LS1 Camaro.
Can't say about the Mustang, but I hear the 2003-2004 Cobra which is supercharged was putting down 300 + Hp and could easily keep up with the LS1 Camaro. Other than that most of them seem to have the 4.6 that has more bark to it than bite, this according to some of the Mustang owners I've talked with.
Now if you really want to be different, another car that might tickle your fancy would be the 1986-1987 turbocharged Buick Regals, such as the Grand National, the T-type and the Turbo T. Unlike the Camaro and Mustang (which are both unibodies) the 86-87 turbo Buicks were full framed cars that were turbocharged, intercooled and fuel injected.
In addition to that the turbo Buicks used a sturdy 8.5 rear end and they were outfitted with all sorts of luxury options. All were equipped with the 200-4R auto overdrive tranny which has been known to stand up to 10 second 1/4 mile cars. Performance wise they ran low 14's stock (235-245 hp) but if you turn up the boost and run good quality gasoline you can run 12's on pretty much stock stuff. And you can still managed to squeeze out 17-19 mpg city/23-26 highway.
The Grand National was the all black car and the T-type (1986) and Turbo T (1987) were the same car except they could come in any color besides black and they were viewed as "sleepers" and not as worth as much as the Grand National, despite being more rare and having lower production numbers.
Hope This Helps.
Thanks Deez, that helped me out a lot,i think i am going to go with the Camaro, oh by the way the Grand National was are other choice!
Can't say about the Mustang, but I hear the 2003-2004 Cobra which is supercharged was putting down 300 + Hp and could easily keep up with the LS1 Camaro. Other than that most of them seem to have the 4.6 that has more bark to it than bite, this according to some of the Mustang owners I've talked with.
The 2003-04 Cobra was factory rated at 390HP, and that was a pretty conservative rating. Dyno results show stock Mustangs putting down about that much power at the wheels, meaning the flywheel rating was actually closer to 425HP. With slicks and a well-prepared track, a stock supercharged Cobra would run the 1/4 deep into the 12s.
The 2003-04 Cobra was factory rated at 390HP, and that was a pretty conservative rating. Dyno results show stock Mustangs putting down about that much power at the wheels, meaning the flywheel rating was actually closer to 425HP. With slicks and a well-prepared track, a stock supercharged Cobra would run the 1/4 deep into the 12s.
My buddy has a 2003 and was not real impressed with his. I don't think the redline is anymore than 5700 rpm's.
I've got an '02 Z28, 6 speed and it's very quick and comfortable to drive (I'm 6'4"). With the extra overdrive gear, it's only turning about 1800 rpm @ 80 mph.
I have a 2002 TA and a 6 speed. Tire roasting power. Yes, the double overdrive transmission is very nice.
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