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No, don't work at Subaru, but have toured their plant and many other competitors. I have driven many different brands and test driven many types of vehicles. Subaru outperforms Jeep for the overall price in bad weather driving, which is where the vast majority of drivers operate vehicles- not on an off road scenario like a Jeep Wrangler, that is a niche market. Toledo isn't the Snowbelt either. Try Rocky Mountains, Cascades, northern Great Lakes, Alaska, northern New England, northeast Ohio, western New York, etc.
Believe me i know we’re the snowbelt is I’ve been to the upper peninsula of Michigan many times since i live in Michigan were they have already over 2000 inches of snow this winter already. I get it you’re a Subaru fan but we’re i live it’s domestic since i live we’re the Jeep Grand Cherokee is made. And believe me Metro Detroit gets it’s fair share of snow and plenty of sub 0 cold.
I always thought that car mags hated domestics because for over a decade they haven't won any major car awards. That's when I rented cars and rode in other co-workers cars and realized how poorly designed domestics have been.
I rode the Ford Escape 2017, the interior was just way too busy and not for simpletons. The CRV and RAV4s are just so simple and refined in comparison.
Then I rode the Equinox and looked under the hood, the weld points, hardware just seems like cheaper parts than what is used in Toyotas and Hondas.
So is it the unions taking away so much profit from the domestic makes that they have to cheapen the quality so much?
In this day and age, you can expect pretty much anything to run 150k without too many major issues. The domestic stigma has hung around for decades when they truly were bad. They've upped their game to a degree.
Drive to any area that gets deep snow in the Snowbelt or mountains and Subaru is one the most popular brand on the road other than 4WD trucks. I would take AWD all day every day over mediocre Cherokee 4X4.
Certain Jeeps have had a selectable transfer case for years: 2 wheel drive, All Wheel Drive, four wheel drive, and low range. I had an '06 Liberty diesel that had that transfer case. the AWD was great on snowpacked roads!
I believe some Cherokees are available with a similar case. I don't plan to buy one, so I haven't researched it.
We get a lot of snow here in Montana. Jeeps are quite common, as are Subarus and the Big Three 4X4 trucks.
I had the Mazda CX-9 and loved it. The only problem is that they put the water pump in the engine and when the pump went it spilled water into the oil case. 86k. Brick. No more Mazda for me.
We bought the crv. I like it, although I would prefer a bigger v6.
My in-laws have the Subaru Outback and I have to admit it feels more solid and just over all classier. I think it is more expensive, though.
Regarding the engine issue on the crv they did do a recall. They called it the ac control unit, I believe. But it was for the oil getting into the gas. Ours was new when they called us back in to replace that, so I hope it works. No issues so far. Comfortable. Runs well. Drives nice for a little engine.
Please provide the link of the comparison of the same vehicles by Car and Driver.
Still wanting to hear from someone who mentioned earlier how Motor Trend is biased to Honda.
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