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...I came from a Lexus, and a Mercedes before that. My wife still has a 2018 Lexus. When I get in that thing, it's like stepping back in time compared to the Tesla. The nav/infotainment system alone in mainstream manufacturers' cars are a total joke. Lane keep assist, radar cruise, and other driver features are still expensive upgrades in most cars. And when is the last time your BMW/Mercedes/Audi/Lexus got an over the air update that added great features? ...
Not all of us regard these attributes as positives. Call it stroppy resistance to modernity, but I'd not care for my car to "update itself", or to meddle with intrusive electronics in how I choose to drive. An electric motor is useful from the viewpoint of more torque, lower parts-count and lighter weight - the latter, depending on the battery weight; shorter capacity/range is better! But "features" are no boon. I'm quite happy to pay extra to have those features removed - or even better, to start with a design that's devoid of them.
It takes a lot of practice to regen enough per trip in ideal situations.
No, it doesnt'. In most EVs, you simply slow donw or use the brakes and it regens farily heavily. IN the Volt an dBolt, there are two levels, and you just leave it in L gear and it manages it for you and regens quite heavily in stop and go traffic.
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In heavy traffic you don't get much momentum to go then regen. There is only so much gap you can get to regen in heavy traffic.
Not true. Seriously, it regens heavily every time you are not on the throttle. It takes no practice and it takes no planning, it just does it. I can go 5-6 miles on the Baltimore beltway in heavy rush hour traffic and only use 1-2 miles of indicated range. NO hypermiling, no special driving, just let the car do it's thing and drive with one pedal.
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Again, it varies a lot depends on where you live and traffic conditions. If the traffic is as bad a NYC, 50% of the time you are stopping and not coasting you can't regen.
You do realize regen is when you use the brakes, not coasting, don't you? If you are moving, no matter how slow, you are regenning every time you come to a stop and when you are stopped you are not using any juice. Trust me, I've DONE it in heavy NY traffic. I've gone completely across the Cross Bronx in 2 hours and only used 2 miles of indicated range. DUE to regen. Same with the NY Thruway and the top of the Jersey Turnpike and 17 across the top of Jersey in rush hour.
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NYC traffic is short distances and heavy stop and go. Regen requires distance and moving.
NO IT DOESNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you hit the brakes, you are regenning. Short distances with heavy stop and go is PERFECT for regen!!!!!!
God damn I don't know what EV you drive, but it's broken if what you are saying is true for you.
Not all of us regard these attributes as positives. Call it stroppy resistance to modernity, but I'd not care for my car to "update itself", or to meddle with intrusive electronics in how I choose to drive. An electric motor is useful from the viewpoint of more torque, lower parts-count and lighter weight - the latter, depending on the battery weight; shorter capacity/range is better! But "features" are no boon. I'm quite happy to pay extra to have those features removed - or even better, to start with a design that's devoid of them.
That's a fair comment. Often I see people attacking EVs - Teslas in particular - saying that they are somehow worse than other cars for having these features, either taking a safety angle or by trying to show how the older stuff is somehow better.
But the way you frame it is totally fair- some people just don't like it. Can't argue with that.
Electric would be perfect for me and my wife... except for several times a year when one of us needs to drive 200+ miles each way. True, if there's a charging station basically at every hotel, fuel stop, truck stop, etc., it could be made to work.
But best would be a 500 mile range. When that's available and affordable, gasoline cars will become a thing of the past.
Re: Infrastructure. I drive 500 miles one way each month to go to my office. With stops for food and gas it takes about 9 hours. Can you tell me I can do the same trip currently in an EV in 9, even 10 hours?
Flammability. Yes an ICE car is flammable, but usually you know when the car can catch fire. You can smell gas leaking and it usually happens when it's an accident. If a Tesla catches fire, do you usually know before it happens?
I don't mind electric cars (drove a Mirai and liked it), but there are still things that need to be worked out. People still buy Teslas because they are a novelty and a gadget. And I don't want to pay $50k for one (or $35k for a small, shorter range non-Tesla).
A 500 mile commute is clearly an exception and an exceptional rarity, but since you asked...
If you leave your house with a fully charged LR Tesla, you can easily get to 300 miles.
Then you would need to charge for ~30 min to get from say 20 miles left to 220 miles (My tesla charges at 100 miles in 10 minutes when the battery is low). Then you charge at your destination (office charger or hotel with a charger or worst case, spend another 10 minutes at a supercharger to get the get another 100 miles to go about your day).
I'm assuming a coffee, bathroom, snack, gas break would have taken you 15 minutes anyway, so what's another 15?
Electric would be perfect for me and my wife... except for several times a year when one of us needs to drive 200+ miles each way. True, if there's a charging station basically at every hotel, fuel stop, truck stop, etc., it could be made to work.
But best would be a 500 mile range. When that's available and affordable, gasoline cars will become a thing of the past.
I've only taken 2 roadtrips of 200+ miles, but there are super chargers everywhere for road trips. Can you post a stretch of highway that doesn't have a Tesla supercharger within 200 miles? I'm sure it exists, but has to be rare. I looked into driving the Tesla from NYC to Dallas, and there are chargers everywhere.
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