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1st Place: 2019 Honda Accord
Highs: Finely tuned control calibrations and responses, unnecessarily quick, a rational purchase.
Lows: Sloppy active lane-keeping assist, there are quieter competitors.
Verdict: A wholesome family sedan that knows how to cut loose.
2nd Place: 2020 Hyundai Sonata
Highs: Assertive, torquey engine; loaded with tech; big parking-lot presence.
Lows: Awkwardly high seating, confused suspension tuning, a tornado of wind noise.
Verdict: Despite constant improvement, Hyundai still does value better than dynamics.
3rd Place: 2020 Toyota Camry
Highs: Assertive powertrain, competent cornering, as comfortable as ever.
Lows: Gritty engine vibrations, cringe-inducing styling, makes a Michigan winter look cheery.
Verdict: It drives better than you think, even if it is still a Camry in earnest.
4th Place: 2020 Nissan Altima
Highs: Holds its own in corners, CVT does a decent job mimicking a conventional automatic.
Lows: Flinty ride, abysmal rearward visibility, light on convenience features.
Verdict: An injection of character into the Altima gives us hope for Nissan.
5th Place: 2020 Subaru Legacy
Highs: Clear sightlines in every direction, better than riding the bus.
Lows: Slow, noisy, and thirsty; like a bounce house without the fun.
Verdict: Its driving dynamics leave us wanting more sportiness.
My Cruze is quieter than Hondas, even with a diesel engine clattering up front.
That's because they pile on this stuff called "sound deadening", a substance that Honda seems to not know about.
It not only shuts out the engine, but all of the other annoying ruckus that makes its way into Honda cabins.
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Originally Posted by movin2Reston
Honda or Hyundai seem to be the best mid size sedan you can buy, better than the other 3 options.
Nope.
If forced to buy one of these, I'd buy one of those V6 Camrys with the red leather interiors, hands down.
Nothing can be done about the Honda and Hyundai noise problems. It's unacceptable.
You can fix unreliable but you can't fix noisy!
As for a Camry, I would definitely buy a Sonata or Accord over the Camry. Noisy Toyota engine vibrations sounds are unacceptable, then again I guess that is why it came in 3 rd place.
“ The Camry's unexpected competence isn't enough to spark any passion, though. We respect it, but we don't aspire to own one. And despite the stylists' best efforts to scare onlookers into noticing it, the Camry's design is no more suggestive than a Land's End shirt. Mostly, we just want to look away.
The interior, awash in simple plastics, is even more disappointing. The urethane steering wheel is as inviting as the Bowflex in your spare bedroom. The screens in the center stack and instrument cluster are small, low-resolution things. And the engine emits a diesel-like grittiness at low rpm that becomes a thrashy buzz when pushed harder. For us, living with these flaws isn't worth the discount the Camry offers over the competitors that finished ahead of it.”
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Originally Posted by eaton53
My Cruze is quieter than Hondas, even with a diesel engine clattering up front.
That's because they pile on this stuff called "sound deadening", a substance that Honda seems to not know about.
It not only shuts out the engine, but all of the other annoying ruckus that makes its way into Honda cabins.
Nope.
If forced to buy one of these, I'd buy one of those V6 Camrys with the red leather interiors, hands down.
Nothing can be done about the Honda and Hyundai noise problems. It's unacceptable.
You can fix unreliable but you can't fix noisy!
I know, it's a cheaper car.
That makes larger, more expensive cars skimping on noise reduction materials more egregious.
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As for a Camry, I would definitely buy a Sonata or Accord over the Camry. Noisy Toyota engine vibrations sounds are unacceptable, then again I guess that is why it came in 3rd place.
Yeah, they got the crap 4-cylinder.
This is easily solved by getting a V6, which is not even available on the others.
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The Camry's unexpected competence isn't enough to spark any passion, though. We respect it, but we don't aspire to own one. And despite the stylists' best efforts to scare onlookers into noticing it, the Camry's design is no more suggestive than a Land's End shirt. Mostly, we just want to look away.
The interior, awash in simple plastics, is even more disappointing. The urethane steering wheel is as inviting as the Bowflex in your spare bedroom. The screens in the center stack and instrument cluster are small, low-resolution things. And the engine emits a diesel-like grittiness at low rpm that becomes a thrashy buzz when pushed harder. For us, living with these flaws isn't worth the discount the Camry offers over the competitors that finished ahead of it.”
All of the cars in this comparo are mainstream appliances, not sports sedans. Passion? That's laughable in this discussion.
None of these nitpicky, minor complaints about interior plastics and screen resolution are worse than Loud Car.
IMO, the red leather interior I'd pick looks WAY better than the other lame beige, gray, black interiors.
So they can stick their opinion on what has a better available interior.
As for "passion", at least the version of the Camry I described tries.
None of the others make a very convincing effort.
For most-reliable and most-durable, Ford Fusion S (base). Period... Satisfaction guaranteed.
That car is an ill-equipped penalty box. Wouldn't want it if it never broke.
My MIL bought a base Fusion because it was cheap. That's about the extent of the positives. Otherwise, a big yuck.
The Legacy has the base engine. It’s a totally different car with the turbo.
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