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Old 03-10-2020, 01:45 PM
 
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Saw a story about full size for door trucks and SUVs not able to fit in home garages unless the garage was built for such large vehicles or campers. Are these large trucks and SUVs longer than the land yachts of the 60s & 70s?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._road_vehicles
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Old 03-10-2020, 02:08 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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And with gas prices by me at $1.88 a gallon selling small vehicles is a rough sell, and the EV market dose not look so hot now. That’s why GM and Ford have not put all their eggs in the EV market they still make ICE full-size pickups and SUVs and CUV’s. Unlike Tesla witch is solely a EV automaker.
Their focus on full-size pickups and SUVs and CUVs is also turning Ford and GM, much more GM though, into a regional automaker, rather than a global one.
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Old 03-10-2020, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Their focus on full-size pickups and SUVs and CUVs is also turning Ford and GM, much more GM though, into a regional automaker, rather than a global one.
If you haven’t noticed GM and Ford pretty much given up in Europe with both selling off their plants, GM getting rid of Opel and Holden, and Saab and Ford selling off Volvo , Jaguar, Land Rover the only place they are in global is China.

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Old 03-10-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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If you haven’t noticed GM and Ford pretty much given up in Europe wit both selling off their plants, GM getting rid of Opel and Holden, and Saab and Ford selling off Volvo , Jaguar, Land Rover the only place they are in global is China.
Yes, that’s why I said what I said. They kept on focusing on their full-size pickups, SUVs, and CUVs. They didn’t field strong contenders in other segments that are more popular elsewhere (and still sell in significant numbers here where Hyundai has gladly gobbled up alongside Japanese automakers). Instead of trying to rectify that, they just eliminated such from their lineup and pulled out of markets. GM is now having a terrible time in China, which while having had a downturn in the automotive market in general last year, had GM faring far worse than the Chinese industry average. They’re been increasingly putting their eggs in a single full-size US basket, and that carries immense risk.

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Old 03-10-2020, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Yes, that’s why I said what I said. They kept on focusing on their full-size pickups, SUVs, and CUVs. They didn’t field strong contenders in other segments that are more popular elsewhere (and still sell in significant numbers here where Hyundai has gladly gobbled up alongside Japanese automakers). Instead of trying to rectify that, they just eliminated such from their lineup and pulled out of markets. GM is now having a terrible time in China, which while having had a downturn in the automotive market in general last year, had GM faring far worse than the Chinese industry average. They’re been increasingly putting their eggs in a single full-size US basket, and that carries immense risk.
Yep but GM has been around a long time only time will tell, Tesla should worry about the low oil prices.
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Old 03-10-2020, 05:16 PM
 
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Full size pickups are certainly in favor today and even popular with soccer Moms in our neighborhood and general area. Gas prices are incredibly low and that is helping to support the existence of these vehicles. I could be mistaken, however it seems that everything seems to cycle and now with the coronavirus, I’m thinking the economy will really be hurt by this outbreak and many will be forced to scale things back financially.

Gas prices will probably remain low for the foreseeable future, however full size pickups are more expensive to maintain and perhaps the next cycle might transition away from the big and heavy and filter down to a more affordable and practical vehicle. Just thinking that might be the direction of the next trend.
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Old 03-10-2020, 05:19 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yep but GM has been around a long time only time will tell, Tesla should worry about the low oil prices.
Sure, I guess, but it’s not like public concern about fuel economy has been massive over the last several years. I doubt that’s what’s driving the sales of what are essentially luxury vehicles, and EU and Chinese regulators are legislating on emissions not the price of fuel.

Besides, I don’t think Tesla will ever release a vehicle that I’m personally into since they don’t have any offerings or plans to make offerings in any of the types of vehicles I really like. However, I love Camaros and if GM keeps puts itself in the same idiotic positions that it’s done not so long ago and goes down, they’ll be taking down Camaros with it, and that is plenty for me to be riled up about.
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:30 PM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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I hate all them big tanks. We need to bring back S10 size trucks.
Yes! "Medium" trucks today are the size of my old 2002 GMC Sierra 1500 - never mind a new Sierra.
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Old 03-11-2020, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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My folks once bought a new Buick sedan and didn't bother to check the length against the garage space. It turned out to be about 8 inches too long to fit. My dad was all ready to tear out the back wall that separated a utility room, but my mother talked some sense into him. The Buick dealer got together with a Chevrolet dealer and they traded cars and split the commission. My folks ended up with a Chevy sedan that fit the space.
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Old 03-11-2020, 06:49 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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There are million dollar homes in Seattle built in the early 1900s with detached garages that won't fit a Camry. Many people have 2-3 vehicles and one or more will not ever be garaged. Drive up and down the streets here and there many cars/trucks parked in driveways and along the residential streets. Garages are mostly used for storage.
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