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Old 02-07-2021, 03:48 PM
 
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?
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Old 02-07-2021, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?
It has evolved, they will even bring the car to you for a test drive, where are you looking that it hasn't evolved? Maybe a buy here pay here lot, but most dealerships have gotten better.
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Old 02-07-2021, 07:30 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Tesla changed all car shopping experience for me. You don't even need to see one sales person or associate and be able to order the car you want and have it delivered to you all touchless. Not to mention their mobile service can make repairs of your car without you visiting them. They come straight to your residence and make most repairs or service on your premise.
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?
Because the consumer ranks dead last on the car buying food chain. Manufacturers sell to the sales division not the end consumer. The deals and perks all go to the sales division. When they are desperate enough to move cars they toss the end consumer a cookie once in a while. It’s a business where huge profits are built in at the expense of the end consumer. Translation: on your very best day of making that once in lifetime great deal on a new car, you still lose because you still paid way more than what it cost to produce that vehicle because of built in profit margins.
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Old 02-08-2021, 07:56 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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There is no way I would ever use a car-buying service and miss out on the fun of the dealership experience!
I love buying cars, the challenge, walking out with a salesman chasing and yelling at me, and coming up with new strategies is a great way to spend a few hours. Our last, a 2020 Outback for my wife, however, was oddly too easy. It was already 0% financing, so I only asked them for $2,000 off and they agreed right away, no "asking the manager", and they gave me three thousand more than I expected for our trade.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:01 AM
 
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?

Not true. Both my last 2 cars (1 new, 1 used) were delivered to my home and most of the paperwork was done online. Just contact the dealer and tell them you want home delivery. It's not uncommon at all any more.
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Old 02-09-2021, 05:21 AM
 
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?

Have not gone through that routine since I purchased my first car back in the 70s. Only time I have had a sales person walk off was to get an up to date inventory list.



However, for many of these years, I have been able to obtain employee pricing due to a brother who worked/retired from GM.
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Old 02-09-2021, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Have not gone through that routine since I purchased my first car back in the 70s. Only time I have had a sales person walk off was to get an up to date inventory list.



However, for many of these years, I have been able to obtain employee pricing due to a brother who worked/retired from GM.
Since my father retired from GM and is now deceased along with my mother I’m still eligible for GM employee pricing if i ever want a GM product. GM has a program for deceased retired employees family members. My father retired after 30 years in the late 70’s.

The Family Legacy Program gives eligible children of retired GM employees who no longer qualify for the GM Employee Discount the opportunity to purchase or lease up to two eligible, new Chevrolet, Buick, GMC or Cadillac vehicles each year at the GM Employee Discount price.
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Old 02-09-2021, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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Since my father retired from GM and is now deceased along with my mother I’m still eligible for GM employee pricing if i ever want a GM product. GM has a program for deceased retired employees family members. My father retired after 30 years in the late 70’s.

The Family Legacy Program gives eligible children of retired GM employees who no longer qualify for the GM Employee Discount the opportunity to purchase or lease up to two eligible, new Chevrolet, Buick, GMC or Cadillac vehicles each year at the GM Employee Discount price.
Is it a better deal or = to the special they run each christmas advertising employee pricing for everyone?
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Old 02-09-2021, 07:01 AM
 
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I think about this a lot. Isn't it weird that when you consider how much technology has changed the way we make purchases, that we're still stuck in this archaic world of walking into a car dealership, and going through the tired motions of the car salesman experience?

"Hold on, let me speak to my manager", as he walks off and leaves you sitting there for 20 minutes in a pointless mind game. Why do you think this hasn't evolved into a more efficient way that benefits the consumer?
There are other ways to buy a car.

Honestly, I've never considered them. I enjoy the old way of buying a car and I pride myself on the art of negotiation.

You know the best way to learn how to negotiate? Its to get burned making a deal. You'll learn pretty quickly how to make a better deal next time. Lessons learned the hard way are often the most powerful lessons in life.

I will give you my best hints on how to buy a new car. You need to make sure you break the transaction up into three separate parts:

1. Get preapproved for financing at the lowest possible interest rate from a credit union (not the dealership).

2. Sell your used car separately and don't make it part of the deal for a new car.

3. Learn what the lowest price for the car you are buying is. There are ways to get actual figures for what a car costs a dealer. I prefer to simply go around to a series of dealerships and compare what the car is being sold for.
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