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Old 06-28-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Stick a fork in it, it's done.....


"American Airlines will resume filling planes to capacity starting July 1, the company announced Friday."

https://nypost.com/2020/06/26/americ...amid-covid-19/


First lawsuits from outraged Karens will likely happen before week is out.
I don't think you understand the definition of a Karen. A Karen is the woman who refuses to follow the rules. Why would the Karen start a lawsuit? For what exactly? I think you should learn what words actually mean before posting something silly.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Lake Huron Shores
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This is a bad decision on AA’s behalf. I understand they are losing money, but in the airline industry a good safety reputation means a lot and can undermine your success.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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American Airlines is like a Cancer on US.

It is a shame and national embarrassment that they have the "Marketing Term" American in their name.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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I got a few thousands $$ in multiple stock bets for "possible" rapid CV testing. I just need one company to hit to make a nice outcome. If the number hits, probably enough for just one nice trip. In turn, a successful test kit will mean that I get to use my trading account for traveling rather than for trading . I'd pay $9.98 for a 68% (1 standard deviation) correct, and 90% confidence; $19.99 for 2 sd, 90%.
What are some of the tickers you're investing in? Go ahead and pump them! I'm thinking along the same lines.

As for flying... I'm done with it. I'll be driving as much as possible from now on. If a driving trip would take longer than two days, I'll fly -- I know my limits -- but any place I can get to in one day, let us say 800 to 1,000 miles, we'll just enjoy our nice minivan with comfortable seating and tremendous luggage capacity. We could even sleep in it if we felt really cheap.

I do think airlines should space the seating out -- no center seats. They got $60 billion in bailouts, so this isn't much to ask in return.
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Europe isn't the only place currently banning entry to Americans. I think Canada is as well (until July 21st?) and Israel is banning entry to all foreign tourists (at least until August 1st). I assume there are other countries to be added to this list as well.
Australia and New Zealand ban Americans as well. Can't say I blame them.
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Old 06-28-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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This is a bad decision on AA’s behalf. I understand they are losing money, but in the airline industry a good safety reputation means a lot and can undermine your success.
Only a small single digit % of passengers were switching flights when given the opportunity if their flights were full. IOW, only the Internet warriors care enough to speak up. For the vast, vast, vast majority of customers, they care about schedule and price only.
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Old 06-28-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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What are some of the tickers you're investing in? Go ahead and pump them! I'm thinking along the same lines.

As for flying... I'm done with it. I'll be driving as much as possible from now on. If a driving trip would take longer than two days, I'll fly -- I know my limits -- but any place I can get to in one day, let us say 800 to 1,000 miles, we'll just enjoy our nice minivan with comfortable seating and tremendous luggage capacity. We could even sleep in it if we felt really cheap.

I do think airlines should space the seating out -- no center seats. They got $60 billion in bailouts, so this isn't much to ask in return.
They didn't get anywhere near $60b and the majority of what they did get were loans and not grants. When companies are burning through $1b to $1.5b a month in cash they really have no alternative. Without those loans, there would only be one or two carriers left in the US and competition would be non-existent.

Of course you think they shouldn't sell center seats - everyone does - but only a privileged few buy the first class seats with no middles and it's even less now.
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Old 06-28-2020, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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What are some of the tickers you're investing in? Go ahead and pump them! I'm thinking along the same lines.

As for flying... I'm done with it. I'll be driving as much as possible from now on. If a driving trip would take longer than two days, I'll fly -- I know my limits -- but any place I can get to in one day, let us say 800 to 1,000 miles, we'll just enjoy our nice minivan with comfortable seating and tremendous luggage capacity. We could even sleep in it if we felt really cheap.

I do think airlines should space the seating out -- no center seats. They got $60 billion in bailouts, so this isn't much to ask in return.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/inve...make-them.html
Disclaimer: Your guess is as good as mine. I can guess wrong and my retirement wouldn't change... too much
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Old 06-28-2020, 05:26 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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I would much rather pay a higher fare and not fly in a sardine can. Even before the COVID-19 crisis I said that airfares are too low. I stand by that statement.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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It was never going to last, and people were foolish in believing otherwise.

After a decade or more of finding ways to wring every bit of revenue per seat, suddenly people expected airlines to leave gaps? Those spaces cost money, and unless someone is going to pony up it's every man (or woman) for themselves.

Unless forced by federal government, and don't even believe any such action would be legal or constitutional, airlines are not going to leave seats empty just for social distancing purposes. Only two ways it could remotely happen; raise fares or find other ways to replace that lost revenue on a per flight basis. Or, federal government would have to put something on table like offer in kind.
Since the FAA is under Trump's thumb, unless the crisis truly goes out of control nationwide (say 40 states) the airlines will not be forced to social distance. And I am on the fence if they should be . It is necessary to prevent issues with expanding cases. However, airlines run at rather low margins are bleeding money with 60% even 70% full planes.
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