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Glad to see you "no" how to spell and can throw around complex abbreviations like SMH (which stands for "my Facebook feed is full of Farmville posts"). You certainly have made a case for how much better you are than all the unwanted, unwashed, "low class" masses who call this city home.
By the way, if you want to pretend you actually have the cojones to leave a place that makes you so miserable, you probably shouldn't post where you live:
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Originally Posted by Infinite_heights77
I live off of Greenmount Ave. near Govans going towards Towson.
As the cool kids would say, "obvious troll is obvious."
Why does Baltimore need to be a "world class" city anyway?
**Seriously!! What is wrong with aspiring to be WORLD CLASS? Is that a crime or something?
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Who said it was a crime? All I'm saying is that not every city has to be one. Why is it a crime NOT to be?
I mean I grew up in a so-called "world class city" and lived in another for 5 years. To me, that phrase means you live someplace that is known around the world and is a frequent destination for people coming from abroad. It usually means you have a high status, 'best of field" something... fashion, certain industries, education, beaches, nightlife... something. So in the US, that's NYC, DC, Miami, LA, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That's what you want right? You think it will give you a cosmopolitan populace, right?
Well that comes with a downside IMO. Typically the culture becomes cuthroat and competitive around whatever is earning you that world class reputation. In Boston, it's education. In Miami, it's looks - as in beach bodies. In DC, it's political connections and access to power. It also comes with a higher cost of living. So what I'm saying is that there are places where people can live a good life and meet people who share their intellectual interests without all that. The pace of life can be more laid back. So a place like Portland is a nice place with an educated populace, but people in Uzbekestan don't get on planes to travel there. LOL. Why can't Baltimore be like that?
This is what I mean by a town full of Eyeores. Y'all have a lot going for yourselves, but you refuse to see it. All you see is what you don't have. This is a nice sized city with a great housing stock, a very stable major employer in Hopkins and the other colleges, as well as the port.. the location makes it easy to travel to the "world class cities" in the vicinity... it has it's own character and culture (its not bland like say Cincinnati)... it has a lot of nice neighborhoods. Yes there is a lot to be fixed, but it has a lot to build on. But here you are wanting to take down one of it's biggest assets.. it's laid back personality! That's where Charm City comes from! This place could be a boon to all the people in the region that DON'T want all that fast paced, ultra competitive stuff but still want to live in a city. There really is no other city like it on this corridor. Build around WHAT YOU HAVE, I say.
Who said it was a crime? All I'm saying is that not every city has to be one. Why is it a crime NOT to be?
I mean I grew up in a so-called "world class city" and lived in another for 5 years. To me, that phrase means you live someplace that is known around the world and is a frequent destination for people coming from abroad. It usually means you have a high status, 'best of field" something... fashion, certain industries, education, beaches, nightlife... something. So in the US, that's NYC, DC, Miami, LA, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That's what you want right? You think it will give you a cosmopolitan populace, right?
Well that comes with a downside IMO. Typically the culture becomes cuthroat and competitive around whatever is earning you that world class reputation. In Boston, it's education. In Miami, it's looks - as in beach bodies. In DC, it's political connections and access to power. It also comes with a higher cost of living. So what I'm saying is that there are places where people can live a good life and meet people who share their intellectual interests without all that. The pace of life can be more laid back. So a place like Portland is a nice place with an educated populace, but people in Uzbekestan don't get on planes to travel there. LOL. Why can't Baltimore be like that?
This is what I mean by a town full of Eyeores. Y'all have a lot going for yourselves, but you refuse to see it. All you see is what you don't have. This is a nice sized city with a great housing stock, a very stable major employer in Hopkins and the other colleges, as well as the port.. the location makes it easy to travel to the "world class cities" in the vicinity... it has it's own character and culture (its not bland like say Cincinnati)... it has a lot of nice neighborhoods. Yes there is a lot to be fixed, but it has a lot to build on. But here you are wanting to take down one of it's biggest assets.. it's laid back personality! That's where Charm City comes from! This place could be a boon to all the people in the region that DON'T want all that fast paced, ultra competitive stuff but still want to live in a city. There really is no other city like it on this corridor. Build around WHAT YOU HAVE, I say.
This is one of the best responses I have read on here in awhile. I lot of folks like an alternative to DC. I am one of them.
Glad to see you "no" how to spell and can throw around complex abbreviations like SMH (which stands for "my Facebook feed is full of Farmville posts"). You certainly have made a case for how much better you are than all the unwanted, unwashed, "low class" masses who call this city home.
By the way, if you want to pretend you actually have the cojones to leave a place that makes you so miserable, you probably shouldn't post where you live:
As the cool kids would say, "obvious troll is obvious."
Glad you outed Infinite_heights77, nothing but negative from him/her. Baltimore has enough of that already.
Who said it was a crime? All I'm saying is that not every city has to be one. Why is it a crime NOT to be?
I mean I grew up in a so-called "world class city" and lived in another for 5 years. To me, that phrase means you live someplace that is known around the world and is a frequent destination for people coming from abroad. It usually means you have a high status, 'best of field" something... fashion, certain industries, education, beaches, nightlife... something. So in the US, that's NYC, DC, Miami, LA, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That's what you want right? You think it will give you a cosmopolitan populace, right?
Well that comes with a downside IMO. Typically the culture becomes cuthroat and competitive around whatever is earning you that world class reputation. In Boston, it's education. In Miami, it's looks - as in beach bodies. In DC, it's political connections and access to power. It also comes with a higher cost of living. So what I'm saying is that there are places where people can live a good life and meet people who share their intellectual interests without all that. The pace of life can be more laid back. So a place like Portland is a nice place with an educated populace, but people in Uzbekestan don't get on planes to travel there. LOL. Why can't Baltimore be like that?
This is what I mean by a town full of Eyeores. Y'all have a lot going for yourselves, but you refuse to see it. All you see is what you don't have. This is a nice sized city with a great housing stock, a very stable major employer in Hopkins and the other colleges, as well as the port.. the location makes it easy to travel to the "world class cities" in the vicinity... it has it's own character and culture (its not bland like say Cincinnati)... it has a lot of nice neighborhoods. Yes there is a lot to be fixed, but it has a lot to build on. But here you are wanting to take down one of it's biggest assets.. it's laid back personality! That's where Charm City comes from! This place could be a boon to all the people in the region that DON'T want all that fast paced, ultra competitive stuff but still want to live in a city. There really is no other city like it on this corridor. Build around WHAT YOU HAVE, I say.
Spot on, thank you. After having lived in the immediate DC suburbs and in SoCal, Baltimore is a nice, comfortable place to live. Granted, it needs improvement in many ways, but overall things are improving. And its size is perfect - not too big, not too small, not to far from other things. We can easily go hiking in the mountains, fishing in the bay, play in the sand at the beach, go kayaking, so much to do.
Who said it was a crime? All I'm saying is that not every city has to be one. Why is it a crime NOT to be?
I mean I grew up in a so-called "world class city" and lived in another for 5 years. To me, that phrase means you live someplace that is known around the world and is a frequent destination for people coming from abroad. It usually means you have a high status, 'best of field" something... fashion, certain industries, education, beaches, nightlife... something. So in the US, that's NYC, DC, Miami, LA, Chicago, San Fran, etc. That's what you want right? You think it will give you a cosmopolitan populace, right?
Well that comes with a downside IMO. Typically the culture becomes cuthroat and competitive around whatever is earning you that world class reputation. In Boston, it's education. In Miami, it's looks - as in beach bodies. In DC, it's political connections and access to power. It also comes with a higher cost of living. So what I'm saying is that there are places where people can live a good life and meet people who share their intellectual interests without all that. The pace of life can be more laid back. So a place like Portland is a nice place with an educated populace, but people in Uzbekestan don't get on planes to travel there. LOL. Why can't Baltimore be like that?
This is what I mean by a town full of Eyeores. Y'all have a lot going for yourselves, but you refuse to see it. All you see is what you don't have. This is a nice sized city with a great housing stock, a very stable major employer in Hopkins and the other colleges, as well as the port.. the location makes it easy to travel to the "world class cities" in the vicinity... it has it's own character and culture (its not bland like say Cincinnati)... it has a lot of nice neighborhoods. Yes there is a lot to be fixed, but it has a lot to build on. But here you are wanting to take down one of it's biggest assets.. it's laid back personality! That's where Charm City comes from! This place could be a boon to all the people in the region that DON'T want all that fast paced, ultra competitive stuff but still want to live in a city. There really is no other city like it on this corridor. Build around WHAT YOU HAVE, I say.
"In Boston, it's education. In Miami, it's looks - as in beach bodies. In DC, it's political connections and access to power."
In Baltimore it's how many times you've been to rehab!
Not really - drugs and addicts are everywhere, seen it everywhere I have lived - wealthy cokeheads in the '80s/90s, the rerise of heroin among teh young, meth for the lower working class, oxys everywhere (knew a BFD paramedic that OD'd on that ****). Drugs and rehab don't discriminate on class/race/faith lines. Dope is everywhere, omniscient and to say Baltimore is more doped than other similar places is inaccurate. There is a lt of covert drug activity in the best of places. You will see it if you know what to look for.
I had a niece die in a drug fueled car accident in rural Maine; dope is everywhere and you need to be aware, always vigilant. Addiction is a disease anyone can fall to.
"..blacks need to ditch the whole ghetto culture mentality"
*Agreed, but this topic is A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION!!
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Originally Posted by K-Luv
A World Class City is a city that has all of the amenities of a first-world city (theater, arts, parks, shopping, transportation, industry, etc. etc.), but is also a destination city for potential residents and tourists. There is also a third factor some may consider; being a leader in business, research, education, and a few others. Baltimore has medicine and education down, but those who come here for college tend to leave as soon as they graduate and many in the medical fields who come here to train or do research leave as soon as their rotations are over.
The best shot Baltimore has in revitalizing its image, structure, economy, etc. is to find a way to retain college students: perhaps by offering a substantial tax credit for X number of years they remain after graduation.
It needs to come from both sides. Whether some like it or not, blacks need to ditch the whole ghetto culture mentality (whites, Hispanics, etc., too) and whites need to realize that most "hoods" are not out to rob them. What I see as huge stumbling stone in this is that too many blacks in Baltimore are afraid of "acting white" or being labeled as uppity. Being book smart is uppity. Not talking in ebonics is being white. Not wearing Nike's or not smoking menthols or not listening to hip-hop and/or R&B is not being black. If you are black, and like heavy metal music, you are not black according to the black community, but whites would think you were cool as heck.
I am from Northern California, so I will use Oakland as an example. Oakland has a reputation for not only being a "black city"--at least in California (roughly 36% black, 31% white, 22% Hispanic), but also a city that is one huge dangerous ghetto. Now, Oakland does have its problems with drugs and gangs, and has its impoverished areas, some of which only the most hard-core gang members venture into, but this is only a small portion of the city. There is a huge black activist population in Oakland that does not deny their black identity, however the reject the whole notion of ghetto-anything. And for that they have a lot of non-blacks on their side.
Baltimore blacks need to adopt a similar approach; be Afrocentric, not ghetto.
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