Is Baltimore an Internationally influential city or an Nationally influential city? (Columbia: city hall, houses)

[BostonBornMassMade]

There is no chance that the Baltimore Club is more popular than the Jersey Club in any way.

Its dead. And it never achieved the level of popularity as the NJ Club anyway.

Baltimore has a distinct culture and international notoriety. Its level of cultural influence is pretty mute outside of the hood/inner city subculture. But Nancy Pelosi and Micahel Phelps do count for something, as does the Afro.

[macroy]

Just going by the question asked - relative to the city itself. It's certainly more nationally influential vs. internationally influential.

While its economy is around top 20 nationally - it's top 60 internationally.

However, one would need to define what they mean by "influence" in this case. Baltimore has a bigger economy than Orlando, Florida. But I would say that Orlando has more of a cultural influence in the US thanks to a certain rodent. So it really depends on the criteria.

Yes - it has history, it's home to one of the top Universities in the nation (even the world), it's got some great sports teams and even a known talent pool for basketball recruits. Baltimore is the field HQ for a lot of Federal agencies (FBI, ICE, etc.) in the region, and people not from the region often mistake it for Maryland's capital. But let's face it - most people don't plan summer trips with Baltimore as their main destination (unless they have relatives in the area). They may add it to the itinerary if they're going to DC/Philadelphia/NYC, etc.

Having grown up and lived in MD most of my life (MoCo and HoCo) - I do feel Baltimore has a bit of a "little brother" complex.

[slowlane]

Originally Posted by g500

History: Edgar Allen Poe (world renowned famous writer and poet), national capital of the USA during the Revolutionary War,

I don't know anyone today who reads Edgar Allan Poe. And he lived in Richmond, Charlottesville, Philadelphia, and Bronx, as much or more than he did Baltimore. Richmond actually has his house as a museum.



N.Y.C. and Annapolis were national capitals briefly. I never heard of Baltimore being that - if it was, it's never mentioned by anyone.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by slowlane

I don't know anyone today who reads Edgar Allan Poe. And he lived in Richmond, Charlottesville, Philadelphia, and Bronx, as much or more than he did Baltimore. Richmond actually has his house as a museum.



N.Y.C. and Annapolis were national capitals briefly. I never heard of Baltimore being that - if it was, it's never mentioned by anyone.

Touche........but come on, how many people here have ready Mary Shelly's Frankenstein? I bet we still all know the Hollywood version just the same. Same with Poe. Most educated people would at least be able to spout out "Nevermore!" or understand an allusion to a heart beating under a wooden floor. The last time I read Poe, was watching The Simpson's Tree House of Horror where Bart was the Raven and Homer was the speaker. I think that counts, right?

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by slowlane

I don't know anyone today who reads Edgar Allan Poe. And he lived in Richmond, Charlottesville, Philadelphia, and Bronx, as much or more than he did Baltimore. Richmond actually has his house as a museum.



N.Y.C. and Annapolis were national capitals briefly. I never heard of Baltimore being that - if it was, it's never mentioned by anyone.

Poe is still required reading, at least a couple stories, in middle school. Some of that transfers over to American Lit in high school.

[NJ2MDdude]

Yup...Poe was mandatory reading in JR/SR HS.

He also had a deep connection to Baltimore.

https://www.poeinbaltimore.org/exper...-in-baltimore/

Although Richmond is the place Poe most considered home, Baltimore defines the beginning and the end of his life. Born while his parents, both actors, were traveling in Boston, his family roots were firmly set in the soil of Baltimore and here his mortal remains rest for eternity. His great-grandfather, John Poe, established the Poe clan in Baltimore in 1755, only a year before his death. Poe’s grandparents, David and Elizabeth Cairnes Poe, raised seven children and achieved here a place of prominence if not wealth through patriotism, hard work and community service.

Two members of the Poe family served as State of MD Attorney General:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Prentiss_Poe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_...Prentiss%20Poe.

The latter was one the 6 Poe brothers, Princeton University football players:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_brothers

https://pr.princeton.edu/pwb/03/1013/2n.shtml

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by slowlane

I don't know anyone today who reads Edgar Allan Poe. And he lived in Richmond, Charlottesville, Philadelphia, and Bronx, as much or more than he did Baltimore. Richmond actually has his house as a museum.

Edgar Alan Poe died in Baltimore. He's always been associated with the city for that alone.

But if you want to play "that" game... Modern shock trauma treatment exists because of Baltimore. As does our national anthem. As is our nations railroads system. Or the first Washington Monument. Or all those fancy pictures taken by the Hubble Space & James Webb Telescopes.

Originally Posted by slowlane

N.Y.C. and Annapolis were national capitals briefly. I never heard of Baltimore being that - if it was, it's never mentioned by anyone.

Baltimore was the second US Capital after Philly when the Second Continental Congress wash held in 1777

The city was quintessential in the creation of our nation and has had far reaching influences that are present to this day.

[santafe400]

Don't forget that (until fairly recently) Baltimore was one of the nations premier cities, as it had always been in the top 10 in terms of population, and often in the top 5 for much of that time as well. The first railroad and national road linked Baltimore to the vast empty interior, which in turn helped to build and grow the nation that we see today. There is a reason why many small towns within 100 miles of the city have some sort of 'Baltimore Street' or 'Baltimore Avenue', signing their main roads through town.

And being second to New York in immigration numbers in the early 1900's, is also quite noteworthy.

[bufflove]

Originally Posted by santafe400

Don't forget that (until fairly recently) Baltimore was one of the nations premier cities, as it had always been in the top 10 in terms of population, and often in the top 5 for much of that time as well. The first railroad and national road linked Baltimore to the vast empty interior, which in turn helped to build and grow the nation that we see today. There is a reason why many small towns within 100 miles of the city have some sort of 'Baltimore Street' or 'Baltimore Avenue', signing their main roads through town.

And being second to New York in immigration numbers in the early 1900's, is also quite noteworthy.

Not that population size particularly matters, but I wonder what the city's pop would look like if it had been able to annex land over the past 100+ years. At 80 miles squared, Baltimore's land area is tiny compared to all of the most populous cities in the US.

Baltimore (and DC, for that matter) are far, far more dense than the Sun Belt "cities" that now dominate the top 10. Heck, even our unincorporated suburbs like Towson and Columbia are more dense than Phoenix, Austin, San Antonio, etc.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by bufflove

Not that population size particularly matters, but I wonder what the city's pop would look like if it had been able to annex land over the past 100+ years. At 80 miles squared, Baltimore's land area is tiny compared to all of the most populous cities in the US.

Baltimore (and DC, for that matter) are far, far more dense than the Sun Belt "cities" that now dominate the top 10. Heck, even our unincorporated suburbs like Towson and Columbia are more dense than Phoenix, Austin, San Antonio, etc.

Maybe, but that's not how Maryland is set up. In fact, the Legislature made it even harder for a municipality to annex adjacent unincorporated land several years ago. At the same time it also added in more hoops to jump through to incorporate (which, quite honestly, several places across the State should do. We had one huge private community go through that and when it got to the County Commissioners for approval it's now sat for seven years pending "study").