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No, OpenD, you got it wrong again. This is not about scientific research facts.
Actually, it is.
Here you go again making this all about me, which is off topic, except for the part that is about you, which is also off topic. I posted the OP in order to discuss the facts of the court decision.
According to the TOS you are out of line, again. In addition, please notice the part where they talk about attacking the idea, not the speaker of the idea. https://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html
In other news, here's a pertinent quote that is on topic, from The Burlington Free Press, Friday, August 9, 1996, after the Appeals Court had struck down the Vermont Milk Labeling Law.
Quote:
"It is clear form the past year that the BST law is difficult to maintain and has been confusing to many consumers," said Jim Harrison, president of the Vermont Grocers' Association in Rutland.
"Consumers still have the ability to vote with their pocketbooks, and those companies that want to voluntarily reveal that information can reveal that."
The entire GMO argument would be moot if GMO food didn't taste so good. The reason I avoid Whole Foods and Organic is taste, especially beef.
I find myself in disbelief every year i visit my parents in Europe. It is just not possible for the meat to taste that different...and then you actually taste it and your jaw hits the floor. The meats here in Cali taste like rubber. To be fair, that is not much due to GMO but more due to the corn only diet they feed the bovines We are considering going to smal local farms and see if we can get the meats this way. I'm surprised you have such different experience since HI imports most of its food from the mainland. That Big Island wild pig is definitely at the top of my must eat list.
I find myself in disbelief every year i visit my parents in Europe. It is just not possible for the meat to taste that different...and then you actually taste it and your jaw hits the floor. The meats here in Cali taste like rubber. To be fair, that is not much due to GMO but more due to the corn only diet they feed the bovines We are considering going to smal local farms and see if we can get the meats this way. I'm surprised you have such different experience since HI imports most of its food from the mainland. That Big Island wild pig is definitely at the top of my must eat list.
I lived in Germany - land of the mystery meat when they'd put the platter in front of you and you'd have to guess what it is.
For me - personally - I don't like the beef in Europe at all - give me a good GMO Prime Steak in the ole USA and I'm all over it.... Just my personal taste.
I lived in Germany - land of the mystery meat when they'd put the platter in front of you and you'd have to guess what it is.
For me - personally - I don't like the beef in Europe at all - give me a good GMO Prime Steak in the ole USA and I'm all over it.... Just my personal taste.
Sure, I understand. It's all about personal taste.
OpenD i believe makes a valid point from a legal standing. Why not the "good guys" just say they are good and then you can assume the ones not mentioning it are the "bad" GMO. It will be interesting to see how this will be enforced. How will they check on the GMO free farms.
On the other hand, if the majority wants it then let them have it! In Cali they thought they wanted it but came up short on the vote count a few years back.
My diet consists mostly of frozen pizza, Spam, and box wine. Should I be worried about GMA/Gluten Free/etc?? (I do splurge occasionally and get a can of cheese.)
My diet consists mostly of frozen pizza, Spam, and box wine. Should I be worried about GMA/Gluten Free/etc?? (I do splurge occasionally and get a can of cheese.)
The only one of these that I know does not contain gluten is Spam. (except the teriyaki) Box wine? Probably not. Fish Eye makes a tasty chardonnay box wine btw.....
It is just not possible for the meat to taste that different...and then you actually taste it and your jaw hits the floor. The meats here in Cali taste like rubber. To be fair, that is not much due to GMO but more due to the corn only diet they feed the bovines We are considering going to smal local farms and see if we can get the meats this way. I'm surprised you have such different experience since HI imports most of its food from the mainland. That Big Island wild pig is definitely at the top of my must eat list.
It's pretty simple, actually. Beef from cattle that are completely pasture fed is much leaner, dryer, and has less of the mild flavor we're all accustomed to, with more of a taste like wild game. It's also more expensive, because cows put on weight much more slowly on grass than they do when "finished" on corn. Pastured or range fed beef was all there was prior to WWII. The big feed lots started furnishing meat to the American market around 1950, and the public immediately took to it, because it was sweeter and more flavorful tasting, and was cheaper.
Today corn-fed beef is the norm, and grass fed beef is a premium priced product favored by foodies. Funny thing is, even though the Parker Ranch at Waimea was once the largest cattle ranch in the world, and the cattle on the island are grass fed, until only a few years ago it was almost impossible to buy their meat in Hawai'i, because the live cows are shipped to the mainland for fattening in feed lots before slaughter. Then the best of it is mostly bought up by premium restaurants.
Today you can buy Hawaiian local grass-fed beef, but it takes a light touch to cook it. It dries out easily, and benefits from moist cooking and added fats or oils. Mostly the supermarket meat departments in Hawai'i are filled with beef from mainland feedlots (94%) much more than local beef (6%).
To bring this back around to the topic, here's just one of the complications of trying to ban GMOs that most people wouldn't even know to consider... Big Island Dairy in Ookala, on the North end, has been seeking to increase the size of their dairy herd, which would increase the local milk availability (currently 80% of our milk is imported from California)... they even petitioned the State milk Board to LOWER the minimum price allowed for milk sales., since current milk prices allow $1.05 per gallon for transportation from California, as well as increasing the local beef availability, since beef is another product of dairy farm operations. But as opposed to importing feed from the mainland at great cost, which drove 8 Hawaiian dairies out of business between 1999 and now, they chose to grow their own corn to feed their cattle with, so supplement their grass pasturage.
Given the difficulties of raising corn in Hawai'i. due to the multitudes of hungry bugs and the absence of a winter freeze to kill off the little nasties between seasons, they chose a GMO variety of corn that grew its own strain of the same BT biological pesticide that organic farmers use, which is absolutely non-toxic to any but a very narrow range of pests. Non toxic to bees, non-toxic to animals, non-toxic to people, but deadly to corn borers.
So if the GMO corn variety they grow were banned, it would adversely affect the local supply of milk AND the local supply of beef... and all without any credible scientific evidence that such a measure is even necessary. Now the new megastudy from UC Davis study nails the coffin shut on that wholly hysterical, and completely unscientific movement which forced this court decision in the first place. Enacting this law was a waste of time, and a complete waste of the taxpayer's money.
Take it up a level, you'll see the same results.
Take it up another level, you'll see the same results again.
The courts are concerned with the facts of the case, not the emotions.
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(I do splurge occasionally and get a can of cheese.)
