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Old 01-17-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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What's the percentage of food shipped into Hawaii Island versus the amount of food shipped out?
Overall 90% of the food in Hawaii is imported.

50% of the seafood is imported.

Taro is even imported.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Whidbey paradise
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Yes, it was one of the first clues they said in the paper something went wrong
Then why did it take 38 minutes to halt the alert?
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Overall 90% of the food in Hawaii is imported.

50% of the seafood is imported.

Taro is even imported.
Well, that's the overall statewide numbers. Has it been broken down as to how much of the food on the other islands is imported? Do they also import 90% of their food?

If the amount of food shipped out is balanced with the amount of food shipped in, how do the numbers compare? This island (Hawaii Island) ships out a lot of food, but it's only several varieties so if we had to rely on what was grown here, everyone's diet would change. But would there be enough raw calories produced to keep everyone alive? I'd suspect that if the population numbers of Oahu weren't in the equation, it would work.
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Old 01-18-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Then why did it take 38 minutes to halt the alert?
From what I read - it took them that long as they didn't know how to send a correction. The messages were pre-populated and not custom
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Whidbey paradise
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From what I read - it took them that long as they didn't know how to send a correction. The messages were pre-populated and not custom
Wow
And Thanks
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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Well, that's the overall statewide numbers. Has it been broken down as to how much of the food on the other islands is imported? Do they also import 90% of their food?

If the amount of food shipped out is balanced with the amount of food shipped in, how do the numbers compare? This island (Hawaii Island) ships out a lot of food, but it's only several varieties so if we had to rely on what was grown here, everyone's diet would change. But would there be enough raw calories produced to keep everyone alive? I'd suspect that if the population numbers of Oahu weren't in the equation, it would work.
I don't have the numbers you want, but read that 100,000 tons of avocados go to waste on the BI every year. But you can buy imported avocados in many stores.

I think there is a lot of food wasted, but probably not enough to support the entire population of this island, let alone Oahu.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Why do we fight among ourselves? We should all be fighting towards a common goal -- to make sure this doesn't happen to us again.


Has anyone watched the old Henry Fonda black and white movie FAIL SAFE? If not, it's worth a couple hours of your time. It's a tale about the devastating effects a computer error has on our nation, and the ultimate order the president of the United States has to give to prevent nuclear war with Russia.
"War Games" is another oldie but goodie.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:17 AM
 
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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"War Games" is another oldie but goodie.
These days 'Dr. Strangelove' watched with 'Being There' is probably more appropriate. Especially if you like Peter Sellers.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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I don't have the numbers you want, but read that 100,000 tons of avocados go to waste on the BI every year. But you can buy imported avocados in many stores.
Perhaps closer to 400,000 tons wasted....

https://keolamagazine.com/land/ken-l...cado-advocate/

In 2007, Love was part of a study on avocados which found that Hawaiian farmers produced over 800,000 pounds of avocados, but nearly half of that went to waste. While more than 350,000 pounds of prime avocados rotted on the trees here, Hawai’i’s supermarkets imported more than 1.5 million pounds of avocados from California and Mexico. Continued efforts to educate the public are starting to pay off, but ever so slowly. Hawai’i Island’s Natural Food Grocers such as Island Naturals and Abundant Life purchase avocados from local growers, and restaurants are buying more and more locally.

Exporting is not the answer to the rotting fruit. For more than 100 years, Hawaiian avocados have not made their way West. In 1908 the California avocado growers got the Hawai’i avocados banned because fruit flies came along with the crops. Small and especially organic growers do not find fruit fly treatments economical. Ken Love says the answer for Hawai’i is to persuade local markets to change their buying habits.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Some people are saying it was a setup by democrats to test Trump and/or make him look bad. .
Trump needs no assistance to make him look bad... he does a bang up job on his own.
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