Beware if you think that you are going to move to hilo, hawaii and live happily ever after (real estate, employment)
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Don't waste your time feeding this troll. This is obviously written by somebody who is serving some sort of anti-East side agenda. There are a number of them. Some of them own vacation rentals elsewhere on the island and are regular posters of misinformation on other sites like Tripadvisor, etc.
The author of this hit piece doesn't seem to understand that Hilo and Keaau are different places and dog Hilo/Puna without recognizing that Hilo isn't even in the Puna district, and look how it was written SEO style to maximize "Hilo" as a keyword for the search engines.
Previous posts by this user? None. Signed up deliberately to post this non-factual nonsense.
Well, I tend to believe that the poster has indeed lived in East Hawaii and it's his honest opinion.
BTW, it's one that is largely shared by someone I know who has lived in Hawaii his entire life and Puna particular for a couple decades.
He rants on about the anti white boy bias, aloha spirit being nonsense, dirty hippies and so forth.
And the rain complaint-Well, statistics don't lie and a bloke raised in desert dry California will be ill prepared for it.
Spiro Agnew would call these guys "nattering nabobs of negativism" but nevertheless they're entitled to their opinion, whether we agree or not.
Besides, I'm all in favor of discouraging more people from moving to East Hawaii.
I Moved to Hilo,Hawaii around June of 2013 From Maui Hawaii and before that i'm originally from CA, not having any real knowledge of what it was really like to live in Hawaii for any good amount of time. It is now December 19, 2018 and I’m at my house in Keaau Hawaii deep in the rainforest on a slate grey day with the sound of rain so loud on my tin-roofed house that it sounds like when you fry potatoes in hot oil.
Living in Hilo, Hawaii doesn’t feel like home and aloha here is a scam and a business. After living here for about 6 months I was ready to leave and move somewhere else do to the abundance of people- that I want to say are not the kind of people that I am particularly fond of. I’ll name a few like: stinky young hippies and self-righteous liberals, Yoga and Vegan snobs, Old rich Hippie snobs, Wanna-be mediocre musicians, hateful Locals and Punatics, I’ll describe a Punatic as best I can -as far as I can see a Punatic is a broke ass person who wants to hide out in the lava-fields Pahoa area of Big-Island Hawaii maybe build some kind of a make-shift little house and not shower, smoke weed and be a little lazy disgusting dirt-bag and not be a productive member of the world and a lot of them might I add are poor white trash but not all of them are there’s definitely other flavors of Punatics.
While most people that either haven’t lived here long enough to really see it for what it really is or are just too delusional to really see that this place is NOT a paradise will say things like you’re just negative or why not focus on the positive. I do realize that everyone does not see things in the same manner that I do but I will say this- I’ve met plenty of people who see things exactly the way I do or very similar and they couldn’t get out of here fast enough. I am a realist from the old-school that see’s the reality in a lot of situations when a lot of people today live in a dream world of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Youtube. Everybody thinks they’re famous these days and thinks they are a star just because they uploaded a couple selfys to one of these social media platforms OK that’s besides the point -back on Hilo I don’t know how many times my wife and I have been out on the little crappy village they call Hilo and decided that we would get some food from some of the restaraunts and been totally disappointed with the service and the food and at worse have even been made sick but mostly just disappointed with the both service and food. It’s not about customer service to these people here in this place they don’t care about the customer and they will let you know that with their disdainful attitudes towards you.
A system that only favors locals here if you’re not local- meaning someone who isn’t of Japanese, Korean or some kind of Asian or Hawaiian or Portagee and were not born here either you gets no love from these people. I like to call it localism if you’re a white mainlander you can FORGET about trying to do anything in this community past working at Wal-Mart or Target because they will make it hard real- hard for you. African Americans this is for you this is my observations you are in the same boat here in Hawaii. Don’t be fooled into thinking that they like you just because you see Bob Marley memorabilia everywhere and that reggae is popular here amongst a lot of locals you are nothing to them either they could care-less about your plight or anything else that has to do with you. The only other way that I have seen people that aren't from here successfully integrate into these peoples culture is to marry into it and I’m not even sure about that. So unless you are a Billionaire that doesn’t have to worry about the same things that us little people do and you can afford to build yourself a nice fortress on a beautiful cliff or beach somewhere overlooking the ocean and can have anything you want at your beckon call then BE MY GUEST you my friend can live in Hawaii with little to no problems but for the rest of you- don’t ever think that you’ll come to Hawaii ESPECIALLY HILO Hawaii and “MAKE IT” and one more thing it's way to wet in this place it rains waaay too much in my opinion.
The biggest downside of Hawaii, in my experience, are the people, and I willfully exempt a few asian communities from that statement.
The biggest downside of Hawaii, in my experience, are the people, and I willfully exempt a few Asian communities from that statement.
I'll give you an example of what I refer to (in part). I was in Honolulu i the late 80s, and wanted to apply for the Air Traffic Controller positions after they went on strike and many were fired by Ronaldus Magnus. At that time, you could have "eligibility" in only one region at a time. After studying hard for the test, I took it and got a great score. In my liaison with the hiring staff in Honolulu, I was finally told that if I really wanted to be an ATC, I should transfer my eligibility elsewhere because they had plenty of "their own" people to fill the vacancies. I took that advice to heart, and moved to Denver awaiting hiring. I thought at that time that they men current FAA employees when referring to "their own" people. I was wrong.
I was hired and went to OKC for the initial training and me somebody hired for Honolulu (he and I both opted for the tower option (as opposed to the Center option). He was a local, spoke with a typical accent. I asked him how he got hired for Honolulu relaying the conversation I had had with the FAA staff, and he let me know that when thy said "their own" people, they meant locals, mostly friends and families of current FAA employees on-island.
Well, he failed the training, leaving open a slot that could have been filled by a successful candidate (myself), but of course, the racist policies against whites prevented that.
That is typical of what happens there on an unending, perpetual basis.
I know the National Park Service has positions in certain indigenous locations that are for "native" only. Certain parks in the Southwest, Big Island and Maui come to mind. When I worked in Alaska at Kenai Fjords Nat Park they had (as do many parks) local hire authority...not necessarily "native," but "local."
I deal with a lot of people at HVNP. Quite a few are locals. Hard to say whether they are "native" or not, but many have lived here on the BI for decades if not generations and are very knowledgeable about plants and Hawaiian cultural practices. Maybe it's just due to the nature of the park, because the geology, birds, and plants are very specific to this island.
I don’t think they can get away with that. If 1/6th of the population is white, they have to have an employment that reflects that population. If not, that is a lawsuit. Affirmative action.
I don’t think they can get away with that. If 1/6th of the population is white, they have to have an employment that reflects that population. If not, that is a lawsuit. Affirmative action.
They do, believe me. Later in my career, I worked for another Dept., and the same sorts of things happened there.
I Moved to Hilo,Hawaii around June of 2013 From Maui Hawaii and before that i'm originally from CA, not having any real knowledge of what it was really like to live in Hawaii for any good amount of time. It is now December 19, 2018 and I’m at my house in Keaau Hawaii deep in the rainforest on a slate grey day with the sound of rain so loud on my tin-roofed house that it sounds like when you fry potatoes in hot oil.
Living in Hilo, Hawaii doesn’t feel like home and aloha here is a scam and a business. After living here for about 6 months I was ready to leave and move somewhere else do to the abundance of people- that I want to say are not the kind of people that I am particularly fond of. I’ll name a few like: stinky young hippies and self-righteous liberals, Yoga and Vegan snobs, Old rich Hippie snobs, Wanna-be mediocre musicians, hateful Locals and Punatics, I’ll describe a Punatic as best I can -as far as I can see a Punatic is a broke ass person who wants to hide out in the lava-fields Pahoa area of Big-Island Hawaii maybe build some kind of a make-shift little house and not shower, smoke weed and be a little lazy disgusting dirt-bag and not be a productive member of the world and a lot of them might I add are poor white trash but not all of them are there’s definitely other flavors of Punatics.
While most people that either haven’t lived here long enough to really see it for what it really is or are just too delusional to really see that this place is NOT a paradise will say things like you’re just negative or why not focus on the positive. I do realize that everyone does not see things in the same manner that I do but I will say this- I’ve met plenty of people who see things exactly the way I do or very similar and they couldn’t get out of here fast enough. I am a realist from the old-school that see’s the reality in a lot of situations when a lot of people today live in a dream world of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Youtube. Everybody thinks they’re famous these days and thinks they are a star just because they uploaded a couple selfys to one of these social media platforms OK that’s besides the point -back on Hilo I don’t know how many times my wife and I have been out on the little crappy village they call Hilo and decided that we would get some food from some of the restaraunts and been totally disappointed with the service and the food and at worse have even been made sick but mostly just disappointed with the both service and food. It’s not about customer service to these people here in this place they don’t care about the customer and they will let you know that with their disdainful attitudes towards you.
A system that only favors locals here if you’re not local- meaning someone who isn’t of Japanese, Korean or some kind of Asian or Hawaiian or Portagee and were not born here either you gets no love from these people. I like to call it localism if you’re a white mainlander you can FORGET about trying to do anything in this community past working at Wal-Mart or Target because they will make it hard real- hard for you. African Americans this is for you this is my observations you are in the same boat here in Hawaii. Don’t be fooled into thinking that they like you just because you see Bob Marley memorabilia everywhere and that reggae is popular here amongst a lot of locals you are nothing to them either they could care-less about your plight or anything else that has to do with you. The only other way that I have seen people that aren't from here successfully integrate into these peoples culture is to marry into it and I’m not even sure about that. So unless you are a Billionaire that doesn’t have to worry about the same things that us little people do and you can afford to build yourself a nice fortress on a beautiful cliff or beach somewhere overlooking the ocean and can have anything you want at your beckon call then BE MY GUEST you my friend can live in Hawaii with little to no problems but for the rest of you- don’t ever think that you’ll come to Hawaii ESPECIALLY HILO Hawaii and “MAKE IT” and one more thing it's way to wet in this place it rains waaay too much in my opinion.
I lived in Hilo 2.5 years. It's not Waikiki or Kona but I think it's a beautiful little town in its own way -- in a lot of ways, it's what you make of it. IMO, some people move over and find their niche community in East Hawaii and never leave -- but others don't (myself included if I'm being honest, I made friends out there but they were mostly fellow transplants). My take -- Yes it rains a lot in Hilo, yes local people can be a bit cliquey and yes good employment opportunities are limited (largely because of limited options I think). The scenery is stunning however and the weather is still very pleasant despite the rain. Traffic is minimal, quality of life is high and the cost of living is more affordable than anywhere else in the state. Those who respect the community there I think receive a lot more respect in return.
I Moved to Hilo,Hawaii around June of 2013 From Maui Hawaii and before that i'm originally from CA, not having any real knowledge of what it was really like to live in Hawaii for any good amount of time. It is now December 19, 2018 and I’m at my house in Keaau Hawaii deep in the rainforest on a slate grey day with the sound of rain so loud on my tin-roofed house that it sounds like when you fry potatoes in hot oil.
Living in Hilo, Hawaii doesn’t feel like home and aloha here is a scam and a business. After living here for about 6 months I was ready to leave and move somewhere else do to the abundance of people- that I want to say are not the kind of people that I am particularly fond of. I’ll name a few like: stinky young hippies and self-righteous liberals, Yoga and Vegan snobs, Old rich Hippie snobs, Wanna-be mediocre musicians, hateful Locals and Punatics, I’ll describe a Punatic as best I can -as far as I can see a Punatic is a broke ass person who wants to hide out in the lava-fields Pahoa area of Big-Island Hawaii maybe build some kind of a make-shift little house and not shower, smoke weed and be a little lazy disgusting dirt-bag and not be a productive member of the world and a lot of them might I add are poor white trash but not all of them are there’s definitely other flavors of Punatics.
While most people that either haven’t lived here long enough to really see it for what it really is or are just too delusional to really see that this place is NOT a paradise will say things like you’re just negative or why not focus on the positive. I do realize that everyone does not see things in the same manner that I do but I will say this- I’ve met plenty of people who see things exactly the way I do or very similar and they couldn’t get out of here fast enough. I am a realist from the old-school that see’s the reality in a lot of situations when a lot of people today live in a dream world of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Youtube. Everybody thinks they’re famous these days and thinks they are a star just because they uploaded a couple selfys to one of these social media platforms OK that’s besides the point -back on Hilo I don’t know how many times my wife and I have been out on the little crappy village they call Hilo and decided that we would get some food from some of the restaraunts and been totally disappointed with the service and the food and at worse have even been made sick but mostly just disappointed with the both service and food. It’s not about customer service to these people here in this place they don’t care about the customer and they will let you know that with their disdainful attitudes towards you.
A system that only favors locals here if you’re not local- meaning someone who isn’t of Japanese, Korean or some kind of Asian or Hawaiian or Portagee and were not born here either you gets no love from these people. I like to call it localism if you’re a white mainlander you can FORGET about trying to do anything in this community past working at Wal-Mart or Target because they will make it hard real- hard for you. African Americans this is for you this is my observations you are in the same boat here in Hawaii. Don’t be fooled into thinking that they like you just because you see Bob Marley memorabilia everywhere and that reggae is popular here amongst a lot of locals you are nothing to them either they could care-less about your plight or anything else that has to do with you. The only other way that I have seen people that aren't from here successfully integrate into these peoples culture is to marry into it and I’m not even sure about that. So unless you are a Billionaire that doesn’t have to worry about the same things that us little people do and you can afford to build yourself a nice fortress on a beautiful cliff or beach somewhere overlooking the ocean and can have anything you want at your beckon call then BE MY GUEST you my friend can live in Hawaii with little to no problems but for the rest of you- don’t ever think that you’ll come to Hawaii ESPECIALLY HILO Hawaii and “MAKE IT” and one more thing it's way to wet in this place it rains waaay too much in my opinion.
A lot of stuff you said is true unfortunately. I have only been living here for 4 months and as a single man in his 20s, it is challenging in many aspect. I didn't do too much research before moving out here because I love traveling and love to judge a place based on first hand experience through living there. And with anything, you usually get back what you give, but yes, even in Hawaii, people don't show aloha. I do understand where you're coming from. Like anywhere else in the world, nowhere is perfect. People are people. And also keep in mind that Hawaii has its history that still follows the islands today. The sovereignty movement is real. The locals and native hawaiians want their country back. With such a complicated history, the people of the islands are broken. That is why Hawaii for the most part, is a good place to visit. I mean, it is beautiful and the vacation spirit is well alive.
A lot of retirees settle in Hawaii because of the weather and sheer beauty of the islands are fantastic. But outside of that, The Big Island doesn't have much to offer. Anyhow, wherever you choose to live, I wish you the best of luck and remember to always make the best of it. And as for myself, I'll probably stick around for a year or two. I will not be living here long-term. The cost of living and the lack of access to things like on the mainland is a deal breaker for me. I also have a difficult time meeting ambitious people. The world is a huge place. There are plenty of places to live and enjoy life.
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