Where can I find about the history of Puna?

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by hotzcatz

Yup, your island is so busy that you don't get the opportunity to watch as many of these slow motion train wrecks. A lot of the newbies' thrashing around is just lost in the general busy-ness of everyone. Maybe a lot of them end up in Waikiki?

I've seen plenty of slow motion train wrecks on Oahu - and not all train wrecks are financial. The group I've met that tried and failed and headed back to the mainland who were happy about their decision is a very small minority. Some train wrecks have been financial - some professional - some leave with disappointment - sometimes the single life takes it toll - sometimes it is the social life - sometimes a spouse or significant other can't adjust - some get the reality of the school system - and then those who desired the "simpler life" who actually tried it realized trying it for the first time in Hawaii wasn't the brightest idea.

Out of the dozens of transplants I've known over the years professionally - I'm actually hard pressed to think of any that settled in Waikiki - it only has a population of 15,000......

[jlandmark]

Where is mangodog when you need him?

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by jlandmark

Where is mangodog when you need him?

Hasnt posted in 6.5 years. I assume dead.

[terracore]

Originally Posted by hotzcatz

It'd be nice to have Railroad going from Hilo into Parasite Park. That'd save a ton of folks having to go up to the Keaau bypass. Eventually, perhaps, they will get around to it. The amount of folks who live down one road is rather appalling. Even with the pass through Ainaloa and Orchidland, there's still too many places where there's only one road.

I understand the holdup is the Shipmans who won't allow the road through their land, and they have enough influence that the county would never threaten eminent domain. The Shipman's explanation is that the county has no ability to protect their lessees from getting trespassed/robbed if there is a public thoroughfare through the AG lands they lease, and based on my past 10 years living here, they are probably right. But there are others on the island who think that the Shipmans believe they own that part of the island (which legally, they do), with it's private beaches etc, and just don't want to give up their gated community.

As usual, the Golden Rule. Those with the gold make the rules.

[a7bi]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

I've seen plenty of slow motion train wrecks on Oahu - and not all train wrecks are financial. The group I've met that tried and failed and headed back to the mainland who were happy about their decision is a very small minority. Some train wrecks have been financial - some professional - some leave with disappointment - sometimes the single life takes it toll - sometimes it is the social life - sometimes a spouse or significant other can't adjust - some get the reality of the school system - and then those who desired the "simpler life" who actually tried it realized trying it for the first time in Hawaii wasn't the brightest idea.

Hawaii is a harsh mistress. It appears that the perception of hawaii and the reality of hawaii are completely separate. The perception of Hawaii is carefully maintained and managed by big businesses making $$$ of the tourists. The reality of hawaii is not managed at all.
Also Big Island is probably the hardest to actually live on out of all main islands.

[hotzcatz]

Originally Posted by terracore

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As usual, the Golden Rule. Those with the gold make the rules.

Ah, no wonder there's not as many rules in Puna - not enough gold to make that many rules.



Plus it generally seems rules aren't made with the everyday person in mind. Usually the folks making the rules get some sort of benefit out of them and I'd guess it's not a lot of the Puna folks making the rules since they don't seem to benefit by them all that much.


I should wander out through Puna more often to see how things have changed. It's been quite awhile since I've gone down red road or out past Leilani.

[terracore]

Originally Posted by hotzcatz

I should wander out through Puna more often to see how things have changed. It's been quite awhile since I've gone down red road or out past Leilani.

Check out the gentrification in Pahoa and elsewhere while you're at it. Roundabouts. Shopping mall. Restaurants. Home construction everywhere.

[steiconi]

There's been power and phone service to the back of HA at least since 2005, when my house was built. Fiber optic internet arrived in March of 2018, two weeks before my house sold. I believe it was a deciding factor for the buyer.

Haven't been back since, but I bet the roads aren't any better; we got together with neighbors to fill the worst of the lakes in the scraped-lava roads (thanks, Sheldon!). But you know, people don't generally speed on those roads--built in speed bumps.

[Arktikos]

Originally Posted by hotzcatz

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We're currently watching some folks funded with mainland money biting off way more than they can chew over here. They want to be farmers, but the elevation they bought is too high for what they want to farm and they haven't found that out quite yet. No power, no water, no pavement, no real direct road access, it's through the neighbor's pasture since their on paper road is a gulch. A water truck can't get to them because the road is too bad and farming without water is always way more interesting than I'd want to try. We wish them well, but I sure wish they would have picked an easier spot.

What do they want to grow? They didn't know "road" was a gulch before buying? I'm assuming this is near Honokaa...