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Old 12-19-2010, 11:24 AM
 
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I am sorry I posted wrong. I wanted to say is Idaho ever going to change the right to work law.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Boise
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I doubt it. Anti-unionism is way to big in Idaho. If anything I see the law getting strengthened.
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Which is good. Most of the states without such a law have the entire government workforce unionized with ridiculous obligations (benefits, pensions, etc.) not commonly available in the private sector. Right-to-work laws reduce the power of the labor-political complex to impose ever-increasing taxes to pay for ever-increasing benefits to government employees. For examples see California or Illinois.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:04 AM
 
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There has to be some kind of happy-medium. I concur that Idaho's Right To Work mentality is a bit extreme, however I am very thankful that we aren't in the position of Illinois or California right now. They have so many forced benefits/perks for people that they are in serious trouble.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:42 PM
 
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There has to be some kind of happy-medium. I concur that Idaho's Right To Work mentality is a bit extreme, however I am very thankful that we aren't in the position of Illinois or California right now. They have so many forced benefits/perks for people that they are in serious trouble.
May want to do some homework before slamming all Gov. workers....some do earn their pay and benefits. Cal Pers accounts for about 4% of the States budget. Now look at welfare and social programs and come back with your findings. They have a spending problem far outweighing any damage public pensions are solely doing....
Sorry if I am lashing out a bit, but just because "the private sector" is hurting does not make it right for them to whine about and slam those that took another career path (which seems like the trendy thing to do since 2008). You don't see Gov. workers slamming the private sector when thay are rolling in the dough and investments are in the double digits...it's a gamble we all entered into knowing the risks????
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Carson City, NV
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Hi all, I totally agree with Cyclingfan. My husband and I are retired and still in California, due to move to your state sometime in May 2011. My entire work life has been California, starting work in the private sector, ending retirement with CalPers 3 years ago. We also owned a large restaurant (before working for the state) in the private sector. So we experienced, by choice, to own our own business. It was very tough, financially to keep this business going in the economy California is in. Our kids were still at home then, and we had no Medical for them or us. So, by choice, after testing, I was picked up to work for the Government. Again, this was our choice. We eventually sold our restaurant, by choice, to elect working where the benefits fit all our family needs. Now our kids are grown and gone, both working for the Government. As I said earlier, we are retired, and thank god we still have all those benefits from the government (CalPers) as I had a back surgerie that failed to the point I am unable to work ever again. So, no need to "brow-beat" the Government/Union's. It is a choice we all have, and I for one, back these entidies...........Have a great day everyone.
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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It's funny that CalPERS was brought up. That organization is underfunded by $500 BILLION dollars over the next 16 years... who's gonna pick up the tab for that? Of course, that IOU is guarded by unions who will demand taxpayers (read: the private sector) be soaked until they get theirs. Even if it means every business is forced to close or leave the state... it's not like this script hasn't played out before all over the rust belt.

I personally believe states like Idaho (where such ridiculousness is less viable) are at an advantage in the coming times of economic stagnation. Less government and higher global competitiveness is the answer and the right-to-work law helps facilitate that. Hopefully the hordes of ex-Californians don't get together to try to change the law and recreate the paradise they were so happy to leave!
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Long Beach, CA
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I can't say I really get the "I hate California and want to move to Idaho" then speak positively about a program like CalPers.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Carson City, NV
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in reference to boi2socal, who stated they "hated California" or stated we are so happy to leave cali and "recreate the paradise we left? Being retired, we are a couple who has made the choice to move back home to Idaho, where a great many of our relatives still live. I was raised in Burley ID, and moved to Cali in my 20's, whom at the time offered a career for me that ID did not.

I suppose it also depends on "what side of the fence you are on". Ultamately, it is all a choice/decision we have the right to make. Doesn't mean anyone dislikes one state over another or intend to "change things". We personally, are a quiet happy couple, who has made the right choices in life to be able to return home (Id), and live out what little amount of years we have left on this earth. Have a great happy & healthy new year everyone..........
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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It's funny that CalPERS was brought up. That organization is underfunded by $500 BILLION dollars over the next 16 years... who's gonna pick up the tab for that? Of course, that IOU is guarded by unions who will demand taxpayers (read: the private sector) be soaked until they get theirs. Even if it means every business is forced to close or leave the state... it's not like this script hasn't played out before all over the rust belt.

I personally believe states like Idaho (where such ridiculousness is less viable) are at an advantage in the coming times of economic stagnation. Less government and higher global competitiveness is the answer and the right-to-work law helps facilitate that. Hopefully the hordes of ex-Californians don't get together to try to change the law and recreate the paradise they were so happy to leave!
Whoever you are Zedd, you're a wise person who speaks the truth.
And yes the public unions will be looking to the private sector to bail them out. Mind you not directly, they expect Obama to do it thru the US Treasury,
but same thing as all tax receipts basically are origionated in the private sector.
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