Michelle Wu Rent Control Proposal (leaked) via Boston Globe (landlords, live in)

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

So no one pays you?

I work at a non-profit and get paid for working with small business owners in 4 different cities. Im paid by the non-profit.

I don't make money "off" of anyone as our program is entirely tuition free at all stages.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Even non profits make money off someone

Nope- we don't charge a fee to anyone, not even a nominal fee. At any point. We are funded and sponsored by SCORE, FedEx, and BofA. Among others

But I am not paid by them. My job literally does not charge people a dime in order to facilitate operations. If we were to lose our funders we would simply cease to exist as an outward-facing non-profit, as was the case for the first 10 years of our existence.

Making money OFF someone implies that you are either exploiting someone for their labor- or charging them a fee for your labor/knowledge. I, personally, do not do either.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Nope- we don't charge a fee to anyone, not even a nominal fee. At any point. We are funded and sponsored by SCORE, FedEx, and BofA. Among others

But I am not paid by them. My job literally does not charge people a dime in order to facilitate operations. If we were to lose our funders we would simply cease to exist as an outward-facing non-profit, as was the case for the first 10 years of our existence.

Making money OFF someone implies that you are either exploiting someone for their labor- or charging them a fee for your labor/knowledge. I, personally, do not do either.

Call it what you want, but when I ship my FedEx package I am partially funding your salary. And you're not necessarily even providing me any services in return (ie. a roof over by head).

[bostongymjunkie]

Of course you are. You're charging the organization a fee for your labor. You don't work for free. The money from which you get paid traces its roots to corporations who make money "off" others. Many non-profits are also funded by public dollars. That's a pretty disingenuous way of framing the situation.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

So no one pays you?

Money appears spontaneously for him out of thin air.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Nope- we don't charge a fee to anyone, not even a nominal fee. At any point. We are funded and sponsored by SCORE, FedEx, and BofA. Among others

But I am not paid by them. My job literally does not charge people a dime in order to facilitate operations. If we were to lose our funders we would simply cease to exist as an outward-facing non-profit, as was the case for the first 10 years of our existence.

Making money OFF someone implies that you are either exploiting someone for their labor- or charging them a fee for your labor/knowledge. I, personally, do not do either.

The money those companies charge people are simply being distributed to you via another layer. B of A makes money off of people. Banks are notorious for charging a lot of fees, especially to low income people. Interest rates are extremely high. Many consider them to be predatory. So if those fees are sponsoring your company and you are paid, you are in the chain of exploitation.
You’re just like those that hate the child labor in China but buy Nike products.
You’re either very naive or just in denial.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

You're making an assumption that I'm okay with something when you have no clue what I'm okay with. If you can't make your point without being nasty and personal you may not have one. I also don't see assumptions about "everyone else" in the posts, though I don't necessarily agree with all that was said, which I made clear. So should all your public services be donated to you?

Wow you really are blind. You didn’t see the character assumptions made about developers and land owners in the posts?
I also never said public services should be donated to me. Sounds like another assumption you are making.
Bet connecting dots is not a strong point for you.
My post is no more nasty than yours was towards me. If you are that sensitive then perhaps the Internet is not a place for you.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Wow you really are blind. You didn’t see the character assumptions made about developers and land owners in the posts?
I also never said public services should be donated to me. Sounds like another assumption you are making.
Bet connecting dots is not a strong point for you.
My post is no more nasty than yours was towards me. If you are that sensitive then perhaps the Internet is not a place for you.

I commented about the other party's remarks. And you most certainly did imply that public service does not involve working for the people and that public service is "ill gotten pay." So the simple question was if public service is "ill-gotten pay" and does not involve working for the people, does this mean your public service should be free? Answering simple questions is not your strong suit, is it? Your strong suit seems to be hypocrisy as you accuse everyone else of doing what you do. You sure you're not a far-left progressive who got lucky in the stock market?

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Oh so you suck money off of the taxpayers. Most likely overpaid to work inefficiently and collect a juicy pension. You don’t work for people, you work to enrich yourself.
You want to work for the people truly? Go volunteer and donate your ill gotten pay checks.
Talk about someone lying to themselves.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

The money those companies charge people are simply being distributed to you via another layer. B of A makes money off of people. Banks are notorious for charging a lot of fees, especially to low income people. Interest rates are extremely high. Many consider them to be predatory. So if those fees are sponsoring your company and you are paid, you are in the chain of exploitation.
You’re just like those that hate the child labor in China but buy Nike products.
You’re either very naive or just in denial.

I don't work for Bank of America. I, personally, do not make money off people. You cant try to transitive property it all you want but... it's not how I make my money.

Everyone knows the fees and interest rates and they choose to bank with them. I get my money from a non-profit who gets it from a corporation that gets it from people who willing choose to place their money there.

Thats not me making money off of people-at all.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Of course you are. You're charging the organization a fee for your labor. You don't work for free. The money from which you get paid traces its roots to corporations who make money "off" others. Many non-profits are also funded by public dollars. That's a pretty disingenuous way of framing the situation.

No, I'm not- I'm on 1099 or an independent contractor. I do not set my price. I do not charge. I accepted a salary from a corporation. You can trace it all you want that's not how I work,

This description that everyone makes money off of people just flat isn't true unless you're very very liberal with "off of" people.

A lot of people have money that makes money or are given money voluntarily. And that sustains them.

When you say make money off someone it does imply a certain amount of leverage and/or exploitation. Think- tow truck driver.


I am no profiteer.