4 young kids found in 'extreme unsanitary conditions' at South Boston apartment (day care, schools)

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by 2020's YouTube Vlog

It's Pride Month and this story goes against the agenda

That's what turtleboy said. That and Juneteenth.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by lrfox

Now, please enlighten me as to why you think BPD saying the adults are the kids’ parents is a lie? I’m not sure what the motivation would be for that.

Nothing in the BPD update passes the smell test, IMO.

Based on the reaction from the first responders, I suspect that this was a sex and drug party that involved sexual abuse of the children. If that's the case, plenty of motivation to cover that up.

Quote from City Councilor Erin Murphy: "Firefighters heard a cry for help and uncovered the children"

Quote from State Senator Nick Collins: “No child should be exposed to what these children were exposed to.”

Originally Posted by lrfox

And for that matter, why you’re so certain one account is true and the other is a lie?

For me, it's as simple as this...

One side has a reason to lie, the other doesn't.

[msRB311]

This is even more horrifying:

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...rough-daycare/

https://tbdailynews.com/new-hampshir...vq52gOBV__tGGE

[DubbleT]

Laura Petrie called, she wants to remind people this isn't the 1950's anymore.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

If the press release on the BPD website is inconsistent with what the officers found at the scene, I have no doubt that the Boston Police union will issue a public rebuttal.

Well now the firefighter's union has come out with a statement. Where is the BPPA? I mean if police arrived later and the scene could have been cleaned up this should be acknowledged. Implying that BFD are liars is pretty inflammatory. This doesn't improve an already rivalrous relationship.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06...e-od-den-call/

[diegomar2007]

The Boston Housing Authority (BHA) must answer much more than what they have just said. Previous reports from the media stated that it was not clear if the children lived permanently in that apartment. The BHA should have information about the composition of that household, if there were minors on the lease, the results of the most recent unit inspection, and their criteria for inspections.

I'm also reading that mayor Wu and the BPD are disproving the initial report from firefighters, who were the first on the scene. Why? Firefighters are mandated reporters, and mayor Wu is telling them liars. This situation is like for a massive firefighter resignation to seek employment where their services are truly estimated.

This is a case of irresponsible hedonism.

[msRB311]

I guess I don't know what is the role of BHA. I mean it seems pretty nice that BHA and section 8 vouchers are there for people in the first...but in addition to that BHA also needs to be babysitting and monitoring adults to make sure they're taking care of children correctly? I'm guessing it isn't easy for them to monitor every single situation. They should have some insight into the kinds of people living there but they're not police of DCF. Most people who need section 8 in the first place are probably not the most responsible people.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by msRB311

I guess I don't know what is the role of BHA. I mean it seems pretty nice that BHA and section 8 vouchers are there for people in the first...but in addition to that BHA also needs to be babysitting and monitoring adults to make sure they're taking care of children correctly? I'm guessing it isn't easy for them to monitor every single situation. They should have some insight into the kinds of people living there but they're not police of DCF. Most people who need section 8 in the first place are probably not the most responsible people.

They have occupancy requirements just like most places do ie. can't have multiple "families" living in one unit. Baby daddy shacking up (who's not on the lease), isn't supposed to be happening either. Drug activity is not allowed. Enforcement is an entirely different story though.

[diegomar2007]

Originally Posted by msRB311

I guess I don't know what is the role of BHA. I mean it seems pretty nice that BHA and section 8 vouchers are there for people in the first...but in addition to that BHA also needs to be babysitting and monitoring adults to make sure they're taking care of children correctly? I'm guessing it isn't easy for them to monitor every single situation. They should have some insight into the kinds of people living there but they're not police of DCF. Most people who need section 8 in the first place are probably not the most responsible people.

No, the BHA should not be babysitting and monitoring adults, that's dehumanizing. I meant that, given the unsanitary condition of the apartment at the time when the firefighters entered, the BHA should disclose the results of their most recent unit inspection, which includes if the tenant is taking good care of the apartment. In addition, the BHA should reveal the household composition (according to the lease) because it was not clear to firefighters if the children lived there permanently.

Child abuse, sex and drug parties can happen in any household regardless of sexual orientation or economic status. But repeated unsanitary conditions are a violation of any rental lease and subject to eviction. My argument is not whether they deserve or not their housing subsidy, but under what conditions they kept the apartment. Many housing authorities fail their federal inspections and they hide it. I know a recently renovated housing project in Boston with structural problems in some buildings that the BHA never reported or detected until the new management company started the renovations.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by diegomar2007

No, the BHA should not be babysitting and monitoring adults, that's dehumanizing. I meant that, given the unsanitary condition of the apartment at the time when the firefighters entered, the BHA should disclose the results of their most recent unit inspection, which includes if the tenant is taking good care of the apartment. In addition, the BHA should reveal the household composition (according to the lease) because it was not clear to firefighters if the children lived there permanently.

Child abuse, sex and drug parties can happen in any household regardless of sexual orientation or economic status. But repeated unsanitary conditions are a violation of any rental lease and subject to eviction. My argument is not whether they deserve or not their housing subsidy, but under what conditions they kept the apartment. Many housing authorities fail their federal inspections and they hide it. I know a recently renovated housing project in Boston with structural problems in some buildings that the BHA never reported or detected until the new management company started the renovations.

When they say unsanitary I'd be curious on what they mean there too. Was there dog/cat crap on the floor? or just food left out for a few days? I again am not sure BHA can tell people how to keep their place but there should be some rules.