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Old 09-28-2023, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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No. Just get rid of Storrow Drive and extend the Blue Line to Kenmore Square, via the ROW.

God Massachusetts is so inept at doing literally anything and everything with getting people from A to B.
Massachusetts is a state.
People are doing things or not doing things.

This thread was created out of nowhere. There are literally no discussions or need about changing anything related to Storrow drive.
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Old 09-29-2023, 08:00 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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It's expensive and confusing to rename major streets.

Instead, how about renaming Harvard to Obama University? Initials "OU".
You have to salve the feelings of the hypersensitive somehow, even if at great cost and expense </sarcasm>
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Old 10-04-2023, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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There is no doubt in my mind that Barack Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review because he was a black dude who everyone liked and that it was done simply so the people who voted for him would be able to pat themselves on their white-guilt ridden backs.

Last edited by Mr. Joshua; 10-04-2023 at 07:34 AM..
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Old 10-04-2023, 10:04 AM
 
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There is no doubt in my mind that Barack Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review because he was a black dude who everyone liked and that it was done simply so the people who voted for him would be able to pat themselves on their white-guilt ridden backs.
You can tell yourself that, but it doesn't make it credible. Members of the Harvard Law Review were, as a rule, ruthlessly competitive in addition to being academically athletic. Mere gestures wee not part of their repertoire. Obama, like almost all law review folks, graduated magna *** laude (summa is rare), which at that time at least was roughly ~10% of the entire JD class (other than third-year paper, all grades were based solely on fully anonymized final examinations) - again, ruthlessly meritocratic. The Harvard Law School was so not a touchy feely place in *organizational culture*. If there were a division among two equally compelling finalists for Editor, Obama's race may have helped tipped the balance in the choice at the very end, but that would be the same as any other unusual individual quality that tips an otherwise even balance.
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Old 10-04-2023, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You can tell yourself that, but it doesn't make it credible. Members of the Harvard Law Review were, as a rule, ruthlessly competitive in addition to being academically athletic. Mere gestures wee not part of their repertoire. Obama, like almost all law review folks, graduated magna *** laude (summa is rare), which at that time at least was roughly ~10% of the entire JD class (other than third-year paper, all grades were based solely on fully anonymized final examinations) - again, ruthlessly meritocratic. The Harvard Law School was so not a touchy feely place in *organizational culture*. If there were a division among two equally compelling finalists for Editor, Obama's race may have helped tipped the balance in the choice at the very end, but that would be the same as any other unusual individual quality that tips an otherwise even balance.
No it wouldn't, it would be based on an immutable characteristic, his skin color.

Btw, The Law Review membership itself admits that it uses Affirmative Action in its selection process.
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Old 10-04-2023, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Boston
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There's this sequence:
  1. Abington
  2. Berkeley
  3. Clarendon
  4. Dartmouth
  5. Exeter
  6. Fairfield
  7. Gloucester
  8. Hereford
  9. Ipswich
All that you need is a J, K, L, M, and N, and you're up to "O" for Obama. So maybe:
"J" for Jeter (as a shoutout to Boston's rival the Yankees)

"K" for Kenmore, as in the square and phone number KEnmore 6
"L" as in nearby town "Lexington"

"M" as in "Massasoit"
"N" as in nearby town Newton or Needham; and
"O" for Obama

One can use some creativity in coming up with street names.
A is Arlington, not Abington...and J exists as Jersey (after many years as Yawkey). The original plans for Back Bay Park (now Kenmore/Fenway) called for Ipswich, Jersey, and Kenmore (though I think one plan also had it as Kenyon) with Ipswich and Jersey being the streets on what is today Charlesgate East/West.

The oddball in the bunch is Mass Ave (or West Chester Park, if you want to go way back).

Incidentally, or perhaps intentionally, there is also Kilmarnock in Fenway today, which sort of feels like it continues the IJK pattern once Ipswich and Jersey were shifted left to their present positions.
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Old 10-04-2023, 11:57 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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A is Arlington, not Abington...and J exists as Jersey (after many years as Yawkey). The original plans for Back Bay Park (now Kenmore/Fenway) called for Ipswich, Jersey, and Kenmore (though I think one plan also had it as Kenyon) with Ipswich and Jersey being the streets on what is today Charlesgate East/West.

The oddball in the bunch is Mass Ave (or West Chester Park, if you want to go way back).

Incidentally, or perhaps intentionally, there is also Kilmarnock in Fenway today, which sort of feels like it continues the IJK pattern once Ipswich and Jersey were shifted left to their present positions.
Interesting. I did not learn too much of Boston history just going to law school there, and I mixed up the "A." I am not surprised "K" is in the mix already. The phone exchange was KENmore-xxxx and then when the phone company shifted to 2L 5D it went to KEnmore x-xxxx. I remember one of the cab companies still had, I think, KEnmore 6-x000 on the sides of the car. You still have to get to "O" for Obama in the lettering scheme.

As far as Mass Ave. goes, it does not feel like the other Back Bay streets.
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Old 10-04-2023, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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There is no doubt in my mind that Barack Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review because he was a black dude who everyone liked and that it was done simply so the people who voted for him would be able to pat themselves on their white-guilt ridden backs.


They, taken as a group, never individually, will of course pat themselves on their collective white back, since as a group they are white, (hold on the asian). They will pat themselves to their dying collective breath, unless some of them are inclined to switch to a conservative viewpoint, in which case they will collectively or individually lose it for having done the unspeakable, when vetting Obama. It truly was a tragic moment that forebode his presidency, and a deliquescent United States. It was the beginning of the end, really.
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