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Old 10-18-2023, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Old 10-18-2023, 08:26 AM
 
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I think the issue is that it doesn't really maximize the potential for the space in that area. For instance, with the loop removal in Rochester, they at least got some housing built in that area versus the greenspace and continuation of the parkway in this proposed redevelopment of that right of way/space.
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Old 10-18-2023, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Regardless, if the state wants to spend 1 billion dollars to improve the space, then even a 70% good project is better than nothing. Look at what happened with the Piece Bridge, instead of a signature gateway there is an almost 100 year old antique getting upgraded as much as possible. This chance won't happen again. Buffalo has the first local governor in modern history and she is doing as much as she can for the area.
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Old 10-18-2023, 09:34 AM
 
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Regardless, if the state wants to spend 1 billion dollars to improve the space, then even a 70% good project is better than nothing. Look at what happened with the Piece Bridge, instead of a signature gateway there is an almost 100 year old antique getting upgraded as much as possible. This chance won't happen again. Buffalo has the first local governor in modern history and she is doing as much as she can for the area.
I think that is the thing. If you have a governor that is from the area, you should be able to get a project that works for the people that live in that community or she might not be the governor anymore. So, there may have to be some give and take in terms of what all parties involved want.
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Old 10-18-2023, 11:24 AM
 
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I love how "facts" are changed to fit the situation. In this case, "green space" is considered good. Any city planner will tell you they say it's like missing teeth. If they put buildings, it would reconnect the neighborhood.
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Old 10-18-2023, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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I think that is the thing. If you have a governor that is from the area, you should be able to get a project that works for the people that live in that community or she might not be the governor anymore. So, there may have to be some give and take in terms of what all parties involved want.
You will NEVER make everyone happy. Its the so called "greater good". The state is trying to undo a terrible wrong from the past. If it gets bogged down in lawsuits and forgotten, I wouldn't even be slightly surprised.
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Old 10-18-2023, 06:17 PM
 
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I would say where are the large exhaust fans going to be located, and who will be living nearby.
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Old 10-18-2023, 07:01 PM
 
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You will NEVER make everyone happy. Its the so called "greater good". The state is trying to undo a terrible wrong from the past. If it gets bogged down in lawsuits and forgotten, I wouldn't even be slightly surprised.
Well, my point is that the community in that immediate area are some of the same people that were impacted by the construction of the highway. So, I would think that they would have a voice in the matter and are a part of the "greater good". You wan this to be done right versus having it be done in a rush and you regret the reconstruction of the highway right of way.
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Old 10-19-2023, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Well, my point is that the community in that immediate area are some of the same people that were impacted by the construction of the highway. So, I would think that they would have a voice in the matter and are a part of the "greater good". You wan this to be done right versus having it be done in a rush and you regret the reconstruction of the highway right of way.
I think this group says it all. It was founded by black residents in 2010 in that area, that have been dreaming of this for decades.

https://roccbuffalo.org/?p=3261

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Old 10-20-2023, 07:17 AM
 
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I think this group says it all. It was founded by black residents in 2010 in that area, that have been dreaming of this for decades.

https://roccbuffalo.org/?p=3261
I pulled it up, but I'm wondering if this is just a matter of differing visions about what needs to be done or a matter of holding the plan accountable. Meaning, is it going to be done in a way that doesn't cause more destruction of the things in place. That's all.
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