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Old 05-07-2024, 09:47 AM
 
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"Say Yes Buffalo continues to lay the groundwork as it expands its scholarship and education investment program into the Niagara Falls City School District.

The non-profit has operated in the Queen City for a dozen years but this fall they will launch a massive fundraising campaign in hopes of mirroring Buffalo's success in the Cataract City.

"The high school graduation rate is up 30%, post-secondary entrance ... is up 17% and post-secondary completion is up 14%," Say Yes Buffalo CEO David Rust said.

Rust said he gets at least one phone call a month from places that want to bring the Say Yes program to their district, but after a year of conversation with Niagara Falls, they decided to stick close to home.

"As a 40-year educator in this district you know it really kind of invigorates you," said Mark Laurrie, the Niagara Falls City School District superintendent.

Laurrie said Niagara Falls faces similar education and job retention challenges to Buffalo, which is why Say Yes Niagara Falls is set to adopt four pillars from the program that started it all.

Those pillars include prioritizing apprenticeships, working with young men of color, launching Saturday academies, and implementing the "Last Dollar In" scholarship program.

"We've got a model to follow behind and I think it's going to be a game changer not just for the kids but for the community," Laurrie said.

"This is our opportunity to help students earn a certificate, two-year degree, four-year degree so they can live here and work here in our good community," Rust said.

Laurrie told 2 On Your Side that Niagara Falls High School, Gaskill Preparatory School, Abate, and Bond Elementary are already being considered for Saturday Academies.

Say Yes has also started gauging interest for the major fundraising effort that according to Laurrie will start Sept. 1.

"I think that will be the hardest part of this but it's well worth undertaking," Rust said.

Laurrie agrees it won't be easy to raise the capital, but when they do, he thinks it will be worth it in the long term.

"The kids that are in the elementary schools are going to benefit from this. It's a reinvigorating point for the district and the city. I just can't wait to get started," he said.

If all goes to plan, Say Yes Niagara Falls programs will launch in fall of 2025."

Here is the segment: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/ed...e-bf38bf1605df

More about the organization, which also has an all district chapter in Syracuse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Yes_to_Education
https://sayyesbuffalo.org/
https://sayyessyracuse.org/
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Old 05-07-2024, 03:49 PM
 
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For those that don't know, the "say yes" organization fills in when the K-12 system fails. It helps students get accepted for college, when the normal $250,000 for each pupil fails. BTW, most of these students never do finish college. And we haven't even discussed who pays for it.
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Old 05-07-2024, 07:50 PM
 
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For those that don't know, the "say yes" organization fills in when the K-12 system fails. It helps students get accepted for college, when the normal $250,000 for each pupil fails. BTW, most of these students never do finish college. And we haven't even discussed who pays for it.
That is not what it is. Stop with the false information, when the correct information has been posted.

It is a last dollar scholarship with criteria that has to be met and is offered by a non profit organization that has chapters in multiple cities/areas. There are some services attached as well. There are plenty of said scholarships across the country, which may be called Promise programs in regards to college: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/edu...ore-affordable

https://www.freecollegenow.org/promi...0one%20college.
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Old 05-07-2024, 07:58 PM
 
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An interview with the Executive Director of the Syracuse chapter from a couple of years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMl_...ZHVjYXRpb24%3D

On a side note, his father is a local pastor that actually grew up in Buffalo after his family migrated from Memphis TN. His dad is a 1970 graduate of Bennett High: https://www.syracuse.com/news/2017/0...eadership.html

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Old Yesterday, 09:06 AM
 
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For those that don't know, the "say yes" organization fills in when the K-12 system fails. It helps students get accepted for college, when the normal $250,000 for each pupil fails. BTW, most of these students never do finish college. And we haven't even discussed who pays for it.
For those who don't know, JWRocks hates the idea of helping poor kids attend college. If there's any program that exists in New York State, they have to say something negative about it. JWRocks is just a negative nancy, I'm sad for you.
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Old Yesterday, 09:21 AM
 
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For those who don't know, JWRocks hates the idea of helping poor kids attend college. If there's any program that exists in New York State, they have to say something negative about it. JWRocks is just a negative nancy, I'm sad for you.
Just the opposite, I'm afraid. Obviously the public school systems are failing our youth. They should be fixing the problem, rather than accept the problem, and just get people accepted in college, instead of improving grades.

Don't feel sad for me. It's the students who are failing, and it happens long before they are college age. $250,000+ seems more than enough to "educate" our youth.
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Old Yesterday, 09:42 AM
 
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Again, this is a last dollar scholarship program for college(key word in all of this), which is one of many across the country. Meaning, the kids still have to do the work, graduate, get accepted, apply for loans/grants/other scholarships; then this kicks in for those that attend participating colleges and universities. So, this is something different from the public education space, as it is a pathway for students to get to college to further their education, which is the way out of poverty or to even help get advanced expertise in an area of study where college is necessary.

You also have attendance criteria in order to be eligible in terms of years within the district or affiliated charter schools.

It is important to read and listen to the information given in the sources above to get an idea of what Say Yes entails.

Here are the partner colleges from the Syracuse chapter: https://sayyessyracuse.org/scholarsh...lege-partners/
More info: https://sayyessyracuse.org/scholarships/how-it-works/

and the Buffalo chapter: https://sayyesbuffalo.org/wp-content.../flyer2023.pdf

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Old Yesterday, 10:03 AM
 
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Again, this is a last dollar scholarship program for college(key word in all of this), which is one of many across the country. Meaning, the kids still have to do the work, graduate, get accepted, apply for loans/grants/other scholarships; then this kicks in for those that attend participating colleges and universities. So, this is something different from the public education space, as it is a pathway for students to get to college to further their education, which is the way out of poverty or to even help get advanced expertise in an area of study where college is necessary.

You also have attendance criteria in order to be eligible in terms of years within the district or affiliated charter schools.

It is important to read and listen to the information given in the sources above to get an idea of what Say Yes entails.

Here are the partner colleges from the Syracuse chapter: https://sayyessyracuse.org/scholarsh...lege-partners/

and the Buffalo chapter: https://sayyesbuffalo.org/wp-content.../flyer2023.pdf
I don't understand the need, based on the fact that an "education" was provided.

I read all the links the last time this was discussed, and it mostly proved my point.

Just go ahead and teach kids that there are no consequences for what they do, or don't do. Someone will always come to your rescue.
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I don't understand the need, based on the fact that an "education" was provided.

I read all the links the last time this was discussed, and it mostly proved my point.

Just go ahead and teach kids that there are no consequences for what they do, or don't do. Someone will always come to your rescue.
This is about college access, not public school. A kid can do "everything right" and still not be able to attend college due to economic reasons.

It doesn't prove your point and I don't think you comprehend what this is about if you read the information, as you aren't even discussing the topic.

This is odd that others understand what this is about and it has to do with an organization that provides a scholarship. Kids still have to do the work and pass and get accepted before this even comes into play. Again, go back, actually read and listen to the information first.

What make this more interesting is that you can be relatively middle class and still benefit from the scholarship opportunity. In turn, it also can be an incentive to bring families into the city or to stay.
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Old Yesterday, 12:45 PM
 
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Just the opposite, I'm afraid. Obviously the public school systems are failing our youth. They should be fixing the problem, rather than accept the problem, and just get people accepted in college, instead of improving grades.

Don't feel sad for me. It's the students who are failing, and it happens long before they are college age. $250,000+ seems more than enough to "educate" our youth.
I went to Buffalo Public Schools. The problem is poverty. So do you support:

1. Guaranteed housing for every person in Buffalo
2. Guaranteed food for every person in Buffalo (especially school breakfast and lunches)
3. Higher minimum wage
4. Universal healthcare
5. Nordic style prison reform that emphasizes rehabilitation and not punishment

If you don't, you don't actually want to solve the problem with "schools". Kids with supportive and present parents tend to perform better, that doesn't change with the school district. Many of my peers are doctors, architects, engineers etc. and come from many different backgrounds.
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