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Old 09-13-2013, 06:39 PM
 
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except for medicare....
No. Without exception.


You are not taking into account the costs of administration, etc.

Just because it (may or may not) be lower for one individual.... Doesn't take away from the fact that it is costing SOMEONE (taxpayers) more elsewhere.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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A lot of low wage workers are eligible for subsidies. Many will pay less than they could get it for through an employer.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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make things cheaper? Nonsense. My employer (2,000 people) has already deleted the best plans available, and is now offering only plans that cost us more out of our checks but with less benefits, with a lot more out-of-pocket, and their cost is higher. Part of it is the costs rising and part is to avoid having to pay the tax on "cadillac" plans. The real goal of Obamacare is to get people making good salary and benefits to pay for those that don't currently have healthcare. The real result is making more money for the providers, as they continue to raise premiums at will while adding many more people to their customer base.
Actually, there's it will for low-skilled workers. Let's say you're Starbucks. You provide benefits to your retail workforce who makes about $10/hour. Well, for an individual, it costs $1/month to get healthcare from the exchange. Hard to beat $1/month. So why is Starbucks offering benefits? The work can get health insurance for $12 a year. The subsidy for the exchange plans is $190/month or $2,300 per year for me (in my 20s) and $4,400/year for someone in their 50s. The fine for not offering insurance is $2,000 per employee.

Cheaper for Starbucks to just pay the fine, especially for older workers. It's not going to hurt the employee much since the government subsidizes 99.95% of the cost for someone making $10/hour anyway. Given, it's a fairly low window. But yeah, for retailers especially I can see them dropping insurance. Others like UPS are dropping it on spouses who qualify for insurance at their own job since you can do that without being under the penalty.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread. But, I checked the ny health care website ... seems like lowest premium I can find is about $300/month. Has anyone found something elsewhere to get even lower premiums? This mandatory health care is BS. The last 8 years that I've had health care coverage, I've went to the doctor for nothing more than my annual physicals and probably 3 visits for a cold.
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Old 09-26-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Aiken, South Carolina, US of A
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ds590,
You need to inquire through the Affordable care act.
Look up the phone number for the ACA in your area.
CALL the phone number.
Actually talk to a person, tell them you want an amount for insurance,
you can't sign up yet, its NOT open enrollment.
I think you can sign up in Novemebr, not sure.
Please speak with a person, just don't look it up online and get frustrated
by what you see.
It's to your benefit to get health insurance, so check it out.
You never know what will happen, but then again there's always
bankruptcy right?
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Old 09-26-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread. But, I checked the ny health care website ... seems like lowest premium I can find is about $300/month. Has anyone found something elsewhere to get even lower premiums? This mandatory health care is BS. The last 8 years that I've had health care coverage, I've went to the doctor for nothing more than my annual physicals and probably 3 visits for a cold.

Well, be glad that you're in good health

The last 8 years of health care coverage you paid for was NOT a waste!

You had protection against health problems ruining you financially, and the opportunity to seek health care if needed.

That's a rather difficult concept for many to grasp, its like saying you wasted money on a life insurance policy because you didn't die yet

Be grateful you're in good health, and $300/month is cheap compared to many policies!
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