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Old 03-03-2014, 08:06 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I read this thread earlier in the day, and decided to go out to dinner tat our favorite Mexican place tonight to check it out. We have not been there since about November, but everything was about $2 more than last time. No itemization of anything like the ACA, so it may have been for other reasons
like higher rent or food costs I suppose, and still decent prices for the quality,
at $32 for the two of us.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: California
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I would avoid places that do this. I don't need anyone's political anything's on my food bills. I don't care what form it takes. ACA is here to stay so deal or get out of business.
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Old 03-03-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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...We may be paying more on our bill, but the cost was being defrayed by us anyway by high health care charges that covered the uninsured.
No, we won't be paying less for the uninsured, to offset this new charge. The "CBO found, about one million fewer people would end up with employer health insurance. And while some of them would find other forms of coverage, like Medicaid and insurance from the new exchanges, overall the net bill’s net effect would be to increase the number of people without any insurance by about half a million." CBO on House Obamacare BIll: More Uninsured, Higher Deficits | New Republic

Unfortunately, "The law isn’t designed to save money...Some have suggested that expanding insurance coverage could actually save money for the states on balance by reducing their costs of treating the uninsured...it appears likely that expanding Medicaid coverage would add substantially to state budget costs." Wasn't Obamacare Supposed to Save Money? | National Review Online
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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The word "affordable" in Affordable Care Act means affordable for the totally destitute that qualify for Medicaid. For the rest of us it means paying more to cover them.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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No, we won't be paying less for the uninsured, to offset this new charge. The "CBO found, about one million fewer people would end up with employer health insurance. And while some of them would find other forms of coverage, like Medicaid and insurance from the new exchanges, overall the net bill’s net effect would be to increase the number of people without any insurance by about half a million." CBO on House Obamacare BIll: More Uninsured, Higher Deficits | New Republic

Unfortunately, "The law isn’t designed to save money...Some have suggested that expanding insurance coverage could actually save money for the states on balance by reducing their costs of treating the uninsured...it appears likely that expanding Medicaid coverage would add substantially to state budget costs." Wasn't Obamacare Supposed to Save Money? | National Review Online
Those National Review claims have been debunked.

Without the ACA by 2016 the number of uninsured in the US as predicated by the CBO would be over 56 million. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...0Estimates.pdf

The ACA is going to reduce that number by half which is why the ACA is expected to save over a trillion dollars over a decade since those people being insured aren't going to cost the taxpayer a ton of money when they get sick as a dog.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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The word "affordable" in Affordable Care Act means affordable for the totally destitute that qualify for Medicaid. For the rest of us it means paying more to cover them.
Nothing new.

Affordable housing is affordable housing. It's housing afforded by someone else.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Those National Review claims have been debunked.

Without the ACA by 2016 the number of uninsured in the US as predicated by the CBO would be over 56 million. http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...0Estimates.pdf

The ACA is going to reduce that number by half which is why the ACA is expected to save over a trillion dollars over a decade since those people being insured aren't going to cost the taxpayer a ton of money when they get sick as a dog.
It's actually $109 billion over ten years.

Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act - CBO
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Bingo...much like Papa John's, McDonald's, Yum Brands (Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC) Darden Restaurants (Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Longhorn, Seasons 52, and Bahama Breeze) for instance. Rather than provide for their employees and raise prices around fifty cents they opted to reduce hours to part-time where possible to avoid having to provide health insurance, and despite 45% profit increases the past few years in the case of Yum Brands for instance. Scumbags....

Of course--take it out on the employees. We already subsidize restaurant employees' salaries with tips. Now the customers should also take care of their benefits. Those employers are scumbags. Their shareholders must have big profits--and screw everyone else. Some day the worm will turn and those employers will have to actually provide a living wage for their workers.
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